Writing [Tutorial] When & How to Smut

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When & How to SMUT
By Ookami Kasumi

In answer to this forum post:

Smut writers, when is the best time to smut?

DISCLAIMER: As a multi-published author, I have been taught some fairly rigid rules on what is publishable and what is not. If my rather straight-laced (and occasionally snotty,) advice does not suit your creative style, by all means, IGNORE IT. Less competition for me. :)

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----- Original Message -----
I'd like to know how some smut writers write their smut, ...how smutty our smut should be, [and] places to put smut where it [won't] obstruct the actual plot. I also just want more smut to read...
-- Looking for Good Smut --

Before one Smuts...​

The first thing one needs to know about writing smut is The Law of Erotic Fiction:​

If you can take the Smut out of the Smut Story
and still have a viable story,​

You did it WRONG.​


This was derived from Issac Azimov's Law of Science Fiction:
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"If you can take the Science out of the Science Fiction​
and still have a viable story, you did it WRONG."​


This Law is true for every genre of fiction, but especially true for Smut Fiction.

The point being; in order to write smut that won't obstruct the plot--​

One creates a Plot specifically for the Smut.

WARNING! Incoming Rant!

Do Not add Smut to an already existing story!​

If you already have a viable story, adding smut just to get readers to look at your work is known as Pandering. This happens most often when a writer gets impatient for views, or sales, and resorts to adding smut to their work in hope of catching the attention of somebody, anybody who will look at their work.​
If you have a half-way decent story, Pandering is the worst thing you can do to your work because it is a Dead End trick. Adding smut content to a story that was not originally designed to have smut content destroys character cohesion and creates massive plot holes almost instantly. In short, it destroys whatever integrity that story might have had.​
Pandering is a cheap trick no reader appreciates, especially readers who already know what good smut fiction looks like.​
If you think your readers won't notice you cheating them out of a properly plotted smut story, you are Very Wrong, and your readers will let you know in ugly ways.​
/Rant.​

Now that I've gotten that off my ample chest...


Accidents Do Happen.

Sometimes writers will write stories that start out as legitimate smut, but the characters get carried away and the plot shifts focus to something that isn't smut -- turning their smut story into something completely different.​

How can you tell if a Smut Story has changed?​

Here's a test:
-- If you can substitute all the smut scenes with Kissing scenes, your plot has probably shifted into something else -- and that something else is what your story should be.​

What to do about this?​

First, figure out what your story's new focus is. Is it a fascinating Mystery, a rollicking Adventure, a tender Romance, intriguing Magic...? Next, take out all your lovely smut, save those scenes in another file to use in a different story, put kissing scenes in those gaping plot holes then finish your story.

What about just...jamming Smut in there anyway?​

NO! Absolutely Not. All that will do is ruin a perfectly viable story. All you can do is finish that story then try again with a new story -- hopefully with the smut properly integrated into the plotline.​

How do you Write a Story
for Smut?!

Before one writes a single word of the story you plan to have smut in, one needs to know that there are major differences between a basic smut story (Erotica), a smut Adventure story, (Adult Pulp Fiction and Erotic Romance,) a story with with love scenes, (common Romance,) and rape fics, (Bodice Rippers.)

Each of those types of stories all have different Plot Structures where the smut serves a difference purpose.


Erotica:
-- Smut IS the Plot.

Erotica stories tend to be short because their plot is literally; They met. They had sex. What happened after.

This sort of story is easily --and quickly-- written because the writer merely needs to come up with a smut scene, then figure out how the characters met to have smut, then what happened after they had smut.

They saw.
They conquered.
They came.
~ The End.


Adult Pulp Fiction/Erotic Romances:
-- Because the MC needed Smut, Plot Happened.


Believe it or not, Pulp Fiction and Erotic Romances are pretty much the same thing -- an Adult Grand Adventure. The only real difference between them are their target reading audiences. Pulp Fiction is generally aimed at male readers, where Erotic Romance, despite the misleading genre title, are aimed at the female reading audience.

In the best stories, the main characters are on a Grand Adventure, and every time the main characters indulge in smut -- something happens.

The writer's job is to find a reason for their main characters to Need that Smut to Happen, then expand on how every time they succeed in getting it on, their actions complicate their grand adventure.

The more poorly written Pulp Fictions however, use a Reward system.
  • The main character does something Dangerous; a rescue, an escape, a heist, a fierce battle, and they are rewarded with smut. (Ian Fleming, I am looking at you!)

This is a cheap-assed, bargain bin version of the cliché 'Boy gets the Girl for doing something Brave' plot. That cliché is older than the earliest fairy tales and twice as used. Think: cave-man.

If you are aiming strictly for the Male reading audience, go for it! They'll appreciate this sort of story enthusiastically.

However, I as an author and a female reader despise it. In fact most female readers dislike that cliché.

Why? Because it's demeaning.

If a guy does something life-threatening for my sake such as a rescue, I might reward them with a hug, or a kiss on the cheek, or dinner, or even money, but never smut. Not unless I was already in a sexual relationship with them.

The only type of person that will reward a guy with smut when they are Not already in a relationship with them, is either:
  1. Someone who is being forced to do so -- in which case that main character better Not accept that reward or they will lose all respect from every female reading that story...!
  2. Or someone looking for a sucker to use. This kind of person will also toss them away the instant they find someone stronger, richer, and more powerful. This kind of person is called a Skank and females Hate Them. We certainly don't want to read about them unless they come to nasty, nasty ends.

Romance:
-- Falling in Love leads to Smut.


Many, many Romances have smut, but most of them don't really need it. This is because what drives the plot in a Romance story isn't Physical Love. The plot's focus is Emotional Love, and emotions are what make the story happen -- and need the most detailing.

However, if you truly want smut in your Romance story, to do it properly each progressive love scene should demonstrate the increasing level of Affection and Trust --the increasing level of love-- between your main characters.


Bodice Rippers:
-- The classic rape fic where the victim falls in love with their rapist, AKA: Stockholm Syndrome.


Before we get into how to write one of these, the writer needs to know two things:

Number One: American female readers tend to HATE rape fics --this includes M/M rape fics-- with a burning passion, unless that story ends with a gruesome revenge scene that the rapist does not survive.
Bodice Ripper novels went out of fashion in the USA in the mid 80's because of a massive cultural shift in the USA where 'wanting sex' and 'enjoying sex' were no longer considered shameful, that it was okay to take pleasure in sex with someone they cared about. Rape to Romance stories were very quickly replaced by detailed and explicit Seduction stories.​

Number Two: Over 80% of the English reading --and book-buying-- audience is Female.
So, if your English rape fic, or English translated rape fic, has a low reader count, now you know why. It's because the largest denomination of English readers --females-- won't read that type of work.

On the other hand...!

If you are targeting male readers this type of story will definitely appeal to them because rape is a very common male stroke fantasy.

Ahem! Please note the term Fantasy. Just because someone fantasizes about something does not mean they have any desire to do such things in real life. For example, Stephen King fantasizes about gruesome murders all the time -- he even writes them down so other people can fantasize about them too! However, he has never harmed anyone in real life.​


The key to writing Bodice Rippers successfully is to have some kind of smut content in every chapter (every 2,500 words minimum,) even if it's just peeping at naked flesh.

However, there should still be a decent excuse for every bit of smut to happen! It doesn't have to be a good excuse, just enough of one to move the story to the next scene.

Detailing smut however, is optional with smut scenes only being a paragraph or three in length. This is because while male readers prefer detailed descriptions of the characters participating in smut -- female and male-- they prefer to use their imaginations to detail the action.


The Bodice Ripper is also the core of the Oriental Harem story.

In order to write a rape fic longer than 10,000 words (two to four chapters,) one needs more targets to fill out that word count. Also, raping and brain-washing the same target gets boring quickly.

To make a basic Harem Fic, start by sketching out as many targets for your main character to seduce as possible. Seriously, make a list with names, cliché character typecasting, and base descriptions. Change targets every 50,000 (50k) words with a new location and a fresh excuse to have smut.

How do you End a Harem Fic?​
-- No idea. From what I've seen so far, the story keeps going until the Main Character dies.

Yeah 😂, actually, everything ends with a world-threatening conflict that just happened to coincide with low ratings. They solve it and there, happy ending. -- Autumnveir
Oh! Thanks!
-- The mystery has now been solved.

How Descriptive should the Smut Scenes be?

This depends on your target reading audience.

Female readers want descriptive details of everything -- inside and out!​

The people, the places, the action, the sounds, the smells, the tastes, the colors, the textures... Female readers want to see each scene clearly in their minds better than in a movie. They want to experience it all; mentally, physically, emotionally. They want to be those characters and live their lives from inside their skins.

Smut scenes range between 2,500 words to 10,000 words per scene.

However there is a limit to how much one should describe!​
  • Good example of descriptive writing: Laurell K Hamilton's early Anita Blake books. Her later books completely lost the plot.​
  • Bad example: JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Rings series. He was writing a travelogue and it shows. His Hobbit is much better, but still crammed with travel details.​

Male readers prefer the Characters and Action Scenes as lovingly detailed as the Silver Screen.​

They want to see the participants and players in full technicolor in their imaginations; skin tones, hair color, eye color, the exact softness of skin, fragrances fair and foul, descriptions of body types, and exactly how a bosom fits in the character's palm. They like the messy details too; the slap of skin and the squelch of wet flesh, musky damp scents, and the taste of sweaty skin.

Location changes, scenery changes, fight scenes and other daring-do scenes should also be as detailed as a movie scene.

The emotional aspects can be skipped almost entirely -- unless Revenge is involved. Apparently Hate, Rage, Anger, and Frustration are allowable emotions for the main protagonist to wallow in. Love and affection are emotions they succumb to -- after fighting long and hard against them.

Everything else can be somewhat vague, including the smut.

Average Smut scene: 500 to 1000 words.

If you want to detail out the smut to 5000 words or more, your male readers will definitely enjoy it, but a couple paragraphs of a rough outline of what happened works too. This is because males like to add in their own little details and dialogue while they're fapping to smut.​
  • Good Example of descriptive writing male readers appreciate: Jim Butcher's Dresden Files series.​
  • Bad Example: Ian Fleming's James Bond series. Each female lead and all the action is lovingly detailed, but the smut scenes are barely a paragraph in length and described very poorly. I was so disappointed.​

How much Smut...?

This depends on the type of story one is writing.

However...! Before we go into detail about how much Smut each type of story generally has, my definition of Smut needs to be addressed.

To many writers, Smut = Sex. My definition is a lot more broad. As far as I'm concerned, Smut is anything sexual at all; from smoldering eye contact, to a squeeze of the butt cheek, to full on intercourse. I do however, define a Smut Scene as a scene were sex happens. Okay?

Okay. Now...​


How much Smut
should go in each type of Smut Story?


Erotica:
Smut Scenes: One per 5000 (5k) words.​
How Smutty: Extremely detailed.​
Fetishes or kinks: Yes, please! Limited to what is legal to publish. Generally no scat, no bestiality, no watersports.​
Euphemistic language to start with, increasingly hardcore adult language until the peak of climax for best effect. C-word used sparingly and only as a compliment. F-bombs perfectly okay.​

Erotic tension begins with the opening line of the story and every word of description should add to that tension. The moment the two main characters make eye contact Lust smolders into being and every word after that should be erotically charged until the very last line.

Keep in mind, most Erotica is short; 5000 (5k) words to 20,000 (20k) words at most. It is agonizingly difficult to keep up the sexual tension beyond 20k without changing participants. It CAN be done, but it is not easy.
WARNING! Female readers Do Not like reading stories where the main character changes partners. Females consider that Cheating -- unless the story ends in a threesome relationship with all three participants sleeping with each other.​


Adult Pulp Fiction/Erotic Romance:
Smut Scenes: Eight to fifteen per 100,000 (100k) words.​
How Smutty: Hardcore detailed.​
Fetishes or kinks: Limited to what is legal to publish. No scat, no bestiality, no watersports.​
Common language with increasingly hardcore adult language during moments of Danger. Also during rising sexual tension until the peak of climax. C-word used only as a compliment. F-bombs perfectly okay.​

Because these stories are in fact cross-genres of Adventure and Romance, it is much easier to keep the erotic tension going between exclusive partners by balancing it with danger and suspense. Think in terms of a roller-coaster ride with the high peaks being Smut, the deep drops being Danger, and the sharps curves being Suspense.


Romances:
Smut Scenes: Three to five per 100,000 (100k) words.​
How Smutty: Detailed enough to know who is doing what, but through rose-colored glasses.​
Fetishes or kinks: Only what is acceptable by housewives and high school girls. (Mild bondage, no pain!)​
Romantic and euphemistic language with only mildly coarse adult language during moments of danger. Also during rising sexual tension until the peak of climax. F-bombs only while in extreme danger and at the peak of climax. C-word is right out.​

Be sure to detail the internal dialogue and emotional angst of your POV character.

Best written from ONE POV only! (Especially if the writer is a beginner.)​
-- The idea is to keep the readers guessing as to how the Romantic Interest really feels. Using the Romantic Interest's POV even once removes all romantic suspense and gives away the Ending! This is BAD because once the readers know how the story will end, they no longer have a reason to keep reading your story.


Bodice Ripper / Harem story
Smut Scenes: Some kind of smut content from mild to hardcore every chapter.​
How Smutty: Hardcore detailed. Change targets every 50,000 (50k) words with a new location and a new plot twist to give you a fresh excuse to have smut.​
Fetishes or kinks: Limited to what is legal to publish. No scat, no bestiality, no watersports.​
WARNING! Make sure you know your Reading Audience! American female readers Do Not respond well to smut-shaming scenes and may get vicious about them.​

Common language with increasingly hardcore adult language during moments of danger. Also during rising sexual tension until the peak of climax. C-word okay. F-bombs okay.​

Oddly enough, the Bodice Ripper/Harem Tale is a cross-genre of Adventure and Erotica. Keeping the erotic tension is done by changing partners plus moments danger and suspense. In fact, the easiest way is by changing partners during moments of danger and suspense.

Just don't completely abandon the previous partners, especially if they've married the harem master! Doing that will create a plot hole your readers will crucify you for in the comments.

To avoid that sort of problem, give each successive partner their own individual problem the main character needs to assist them with. That partner's story concludes when the problem is fixed and the main character moves on, leaving a happy and thoroughly satisfied ex-partner behind.

The light novel series Vampire Hunter D uses this formula for each individual book.​
Everywhere he goes, D meets a new partner with a vampire problem. Once he fixes their problems and kills the local vampire, he leaves them behind happy and satisfied.​


In Conclusion...​

So, how do smut writers write their smut?
-- With loving descriptions and careful attention to detail.

How smutty should the smut be?
-- Enough to actually get one's target reading audience tight and tingly in their britches!

Where should one put the smut, so it won't obstruct the actual plot?
-- Where it belongs; as an important mover and shaker of the plot all by itself.

I hope this proves helpful...

☕
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Is it that bad...?!
Nope, just amazed me! Luckily, my smut is an add-on to my story. Not the focus, but I was interested in this! If I ever write a smut-only story, that is. Though I am not capable of it. Too much imagination going on in my brain. :blob_melt:
 

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Nope, just amazed me! Luckily, my smut is an add-on to my story. Not the focus, but I was interested in this! If I ever write a smut-only story, that is. Though I am not capable of it. Too much imagination going on in my brain. :blob_melt:
There's no such thing as too much imagination, and not everyone is comfortable writing smut.
-- Writers in particular shouldn't push themselves into work they are not comfortable writing. That discomfort shows all too easily in their stories.
 

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There's no such thing as too much imagination, and not everyone is comfortable writing smut.
-- Writers in particular shouldn't push themselves into work they are not comfortable writing. That discomfort shows all too easily in their stories.
I agree people should write what they like. That is where a story shines.~ :blob_aww:
 

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Huh. I didn't realise I was writing female-oriented scenes all this time. I meant most were 3K+ (up to 7K) but i thought that is how they normally should be written. I always felt short scenes to be too quick.
 

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When & How to SMUT
By Ookami Kasumi

In answer to this forum post:

Smut writers, when is the best time to smut?

DISCLAIMER: As a multi-published author, I have been taught some fairly rigid rules on what is publishable and what is not. If my rather straight-laced (and occasionally snotty,) advice does not suit your creative style, by all means, IGNORE IT. Less competition for me. :)

----- Original Message -----
I'd like to know how some smut writers write their smut, ...how smutty our smut should be, [and] places to put smut where it [won't] obstruct the actual plot. I also just want more smut to read...
-- Looking for Good Smut --

Before one Smuts...​

The first thing one needs to know about writing smut is The Law of Erotic Fiction:​

If you can take the Smut out of the Smut Story
and still have a viable story,​

You did it WRONG.​


This was derived from Issac Azimov's Law of Science Fiction:​


This Law is true for every genre of fiction, but especially true for Smut Fiction.

The point being; in order to write smut that won't obstruct the plot--​

One creates a Plot specifically for the Smut.

WARNING! Incoming Rant!

Do Not add Smut to an already existing story!​

If you already have a viable story, adding smut just to get readers to look at your work is known as Pandering. This happens most often when a writer gets impatient for views, or sales, and resorts to adding smut to their work in hope of catching the attention of somebody, anybody who will look at their work.​
If you have a half-way decent story, Pandering is the worst thing you can do to your work because it is a Dead End trick. Adding smut content to a story that was not originally designed to have smut content destroys character cohesion and creates massive plot holes almost instantly. In short, it destroys whatever integrity that story might have had.​
Pandering is a cheap trick no reader appreciates, especially readers who already know what good smut fiction looks like.​
If you think your readers won't notice you cheating them out of a properly plotted smut story, you are Very Wrong, and your readers will let you know in ugly ways.​
/Rant.​

Now that I've gotten that off my ample chest...

Accidents Do Happen.​

Sometimes writers will write stories that start out as legitimate smut, but the characters get carried away and the plot shifts focus to something that isn't smut -- turning their smut story into something completely different.​

How can you tell if a Smut Story has changed?​

Here's a test:
-- If you can substitute all the smut scenes with Kissing scenes, your plot has probably shifted into something else -- and that something else is what your story should be.​

What to do about this?​

First, figure out what your story's new focus is. Is it a fascinating Mystery, a rollicking Adventure, a tender Romance, intriguing Magic...? Next, take out all your lovely smut, save those scenes in another file to use in a different story, put kissing scenes in those gaping plot holes then finish your story.

What about just...jamming Smut in there anyway?​

NO! Absolutely Not. All that will do is ruin a perfectly viable story. All you can do is finish that story then try again with a new story -- hopefully with the smut properly integrated into the plotline.​

How do you Write a Story for Smut?!​

Before one writes a single word of the story you plan to have smut in, one needs to know that there are major differences between a basic smut story (Erotica), a smut Adventure story, (Adult Pulp Fiction and Erotic Romance,) a story with with love scenes, (common Romance,) and rape fics, (Bodice Rippers.)

Each of those types of stories all have different Plot Structures where the smut serves a difference purpose.


Erotica:
-- Smut IS the Plot.

Erotica stories tend to be short because their plot is literally; They met. They had sex. What happened after.

This sort of story is easily --and quickly-- written because the writer merely needs to come up with a smut scene, then figure out how the characters met to have smut, then what happened after they had smut.

They saw.
They conquered.
They came.
~ The End.


Adult Pulp Fiction/Erotic Romances:
-- Because the MC needed Smut, Plot Happened.


Believe it or not, Pulp Fiction and Erotic Romances are pretty much the same thing -- an Adult Grand Adventure. The only real difference between them are their target reading audiences. Pulp Fiction is generally aimed at male readers, where Erotic Romance, despite the misleading genre title, are aimed at the female reading audience.

In the best stories, the main characters are on a Grand Adventure, and every time the main characters indulge in smut -- something happens.

The writer's job is to find a reason for their main characters to Need that Smut to Happen, then expand on how every time they succeed in getting it on, their actions complicate their grand adventure.

The more poorly written Pulp Fictions however, use a Reward system.
-- The main character does something Dangerous; a rescue, an escape, a heist, a fierce battle, and they are rewarded with smut. (Ian Fleming, I am looking at you!)

This is a cheap-assed, bargain bin version of the cliché 'Boy gets the Girl for doing something Brave' plot. That cliché is older than the earliest fairy tales and twice as used. Think: cave-man.

If you are aiming strictly for the Male reading audience, go for it! They'll appreciate this sort of story enthusiastically.

However, I as an author and a female reader despise it. In fact most female readers dislike that cliché.

Why? Because it's demeaning.

If a guy does something life-threatening for my sake such as a rescue, I might reward them with a hug, or a kiss on the cheek, or dinner, or even money, but never smut. Not unless I was already in a sexual relationship with them.

The only type of person that will reward a guy with smut when they are Not already in a relationship with them, is either:
  1. Someone who is being forced to do so -- in which case that main character better Not accept that reward or they will lose all respect from every female reading that story...!
  2. Or someone looking for a sucker to use. This kind of person will also toss them away the instant they find someone stronger, richer, and more powerful. This kind of person is called a Skank and females Hate Them. We certainly don't want to read about them unless they come to nasty, nasty ends.

Romance:
-- Falling in Love leads to Smut.


Many, many Romances have smut, but most of them don't really need it. This is because what drives the plot in a Romance story isn't Physical Love. The plot's focus is Emotional Love, and emotions are what make the story happen -- and need the most detailing.

However, if you truly want smut in your Romance story, to do it properly each progressive love scene should demonstrate the increasing level of Affection and Trust --the increasing level of love-- between your main characters.


Bodice Rippers:
-- The classic rape fic where the victim falls in love with their rapist, AKA: Stockholm Syndrome.


Before we get into how to write one of these, the writer needs to know two things:

Number One: American female readers tend to HATE rape fics --this includes M/M rape fics-- with a burning passion, unless that story ends with a gruesome revenge scene that the rapist does not survive.
Bodice Ripper novels went out of fashion in the USA in the mid 80's because of a massive cultural shift in the USA where 'wanting sex' and 'enjoying sex' were no longer considered shameful, that it was okay to take pleasure in sex with someone they cared about. Rape to Romance stories were very quickly replaced by detailed and explicit Seduction stories.​

Number Two: Over 80% of the English reading --and book-buying-- audience is Female.
So, if your English rape fic, or English translated rape fic, has a low reader count, now you know why. It's because the largest denomination of English readers --females-- won't read that type of work.

On the other hand...!

If you are targeting male readers this type of story will definitely appeal to them because rape is a very common male stroke fantasy.

The key to writing these stories successfully is to have some kind of smut content in every chapter (every 2,500 words minimum,) even if it's just peeping at naked flesh.

However, there should still be a decent excuse for every bit of smut to happen! It doesn't have to be a good excuse, just enough of one to move the story to the next scene.

Detailing smut however, is optional with smut scenes only being a paragraph or three in length. This is because while male readers prefer detailed descriptions of the characters participating in smut -- female and male-- they prefer to use their imaginations to detail the action.


The Bodice Ripper is also the core of the Oriental Harem story.

In order to write a rape fic longer than 10,000 words (two to four chapters,) one needs more targets to fill out that word count. Also, raping and brain-washing the same target gets boring quickly.

To make a basic Harem Fic, start by sketching out as many targets for your main character to seduce as possible. Seriously, make a list with names, cliché character typecasting, and base descriptions. Change targets every 50,000 (50k) words with a new location and a fresh excuse to have smut.

How do you End a Harem Fic?​
-- No idea. From what I've seen so far, the story keeps going until the Main Character dies.

How Descriptive should the Smut Scenes be?

This depends on your target reading audience.

Female readers want descriptive details of everything -- inside and out!​

The people, the places, the action, the sounds, the smells, the tastes, the colors, the textures... Female readers want to see each scene clearly in their minds better than in a movie. They want to experience it all; mentally, physically, emotionally. They want to be those characters and live their lives from inside their skins.

Smut scenes range between 2,500 words to 10,000 words per scene.

However there is a limit to how much one should describe!​
  • Good example of descriptive writing: Laurell K Hamilton's early Anita Blake books. Her later books completely lost the plot.​
  • Bad example: JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Rings series. He was writing a travelogue and it shows. His Hobbit is much better, but still crammed with travel details.​

Male readers prefer the Characters and Action Scenes as lovingly detailed as the Silver Screen.​

They want to see the participants and players in full technicolor in their imaginations; skin tones, hair color, eye color, the exact softness of skin, fragrances fair and foul, descriptions of body types, and exactly how a bosom fits in the character's palm. They like the messy details too; the slap of skin and the squelch of wet flesh, musky damp scents, and the taste of sweaty skin.

Location changes, scenery changes, fight scenes and other daring-do scenes should also be as detailed as a movie scene.

The emotional aspects can be skipped almost entirely -- unless Revenge is involved. Apparently Hate, Rage, Anger, and Frustration are allowable emotions for the main protagonist to wallow in. Love and affection are emotions they succumb to -- after fighting long and hard against them.

Everything else can be somewhat vague, including the smut.

Average Smut scene: 500 to 1000 words.

If you want to detail out the smut to 5000 words or more, your male readers will definitely enjoy it, but a couple paragraphs of a rough outline of what happened works too. This is because males like to add in their own little details and dialogue while they're fapping to smut.​
  • Good Example of descriptive writing male readers appreciate: Jim Butcher's Dresden Files series.​
  • Bad Example: Ian Fleming's James Bond series. Each female lead and all the action is lovingly detailed, but the smut scenes are barely a paragraph in length and described very poorly. I was so disappointed.​

How much Smut...?

This depends on the type of story one is writing.

However...! Before we go into detail about how much Smut each type of story generally has, my definition of Smut needs to be addressed.

To many writers, Smut = Sex. My definition is a lot more broad. As far as I'm concerned, Smut is anything sexual at all; from smoldering eye contact, to a squeeze of the butt cheek, to full on intercourse. I do however, define a Smut Scene as a scene were sex happens. Okay?

Okay. Now...​


How much Smut
should go in each type of Smut Story?


Erotica:
Smut Scenes: One per 5000 (5k) words.​
How Smutty: Extremely detailed.​
Fetishes or kinks: Yes, please! Limited to what is legal to publish. Generally no scat, no bestiality, no watersports.​
Euphemistic language to start with, increasingly hardcore adult language until the peak of climax for best effect. C-word used sparingly and only as a compliment. F-bombs perfectly okay.​

Erotic tension begins with the opening line of the story and every word of description should add to that tension. The moment the two main characters make eye contact Lust smolders into being and every word after that should be erotically charged until the very last line.

Keep in mind, most Erotica is short; 5000 (5k) words to 20,000 (20k) words at most. It is agonizingly difficult to keep up the sexual tension beyond 20k without changing participants. It CAN be done, but it is not easy.
WARNING! Female readers Do Not like reading stories where the main character changes partners. Females consider that Cheating -- unless the story ends in a threesome relationship with all three participants sleeping with each other.​


Adult Pulp Fiction/Erotic Romance:
Smut Scenes: Eight to fifteen per 100,000 (100k) words.​
How Smutty: Hardcore detailed.​
Fetishes or kinks: Limited to what is legal to publish. No scat, no bestiality, no watersports.​
Common language with increasingly hardcore adult language during moments of Danger. Also during rising sexual tension until the peak of climax. C-word used only as a compliment. F-bombs perfectly okay.​

Because these stories are in fact cross-genres of Adventure and Romance, it is much easier to keep the erotic tension going between exclusive partners by balancing it with danger and suspense. Think in terms of a roller-coaster ride with the high peaks being Smut, the deep drops being Danger, and the sharps curves being Suspense.


Romances:
Smut Scenes: Three to five per 100,000 (100k) words.​
How Smutty: Detailed enough to know who is doing what, but through rose-colored glasses.​
Fetishes or kinks: Only what is acceptable by housewives and high school girls. (Mild bondage, no pain!)​
Romantic and euphemistic language with only mildly coarse adult language during moments of danger. Also during rising sexual tension until the peak of climax. F-bombs only while in extreme danger and at the peak of climax. C-word is right out.​

Be sure to detail the internal dialogue and emotional angst of your POV character.

Best written from ONE POV only! (Especially if the writer is a beginner.)​
-- The idea is to keep the readers guessing as to how the Romantic Interest really feels. Using the Romantic Interest's POV even once removes all romantic suspense and gives away the Ending! This is BAD because once the readers know how the story will end, they no longer have a reason to keep reading your story.


Bodice Ripper / Harem story
Smut Scenes: Some kind of smut content from mild to hardcore every chapter.​
How Smutty: Hardcore detailed. Change targets every 50,000 (50k) words with a new location and a new plot twist to give you a fresh excuse to have smut.​
Fetishes or kinks: Limited to what is legal to publish. No scat, no bestiality, no watersports.​
WARNING! Make sure you know your Reading Audience! American female readers Do Not respond well to smut-shaming scenes and may get vicious about them.​

Common language with increasingly hardcore adult language during moments of danger. Also during rising sexual tension until the peak of climax. C-word okay. F-bombs okay.​

Oddly enough, the Bodice Ripper/Harem Tale is a cross-genre of Adventure and Erotica. Keeping the erotic tension is done by changing partners plus moments danger and suspense. In fact, the easiest way is by changing partners during moments of danger and suspense.

Just don't completely abandon the previous partners, especially if they've married the harem master! Doing that will create a plot hole your readers will crucify you for in the comments.

To avoid that sort of problem, give each successive partner their own individual problem the main character needs to assist them with. That partner's story concludes when the problem is fixed and the main character moves on, leaving a happy and thoroughly satisfied ex-partner behind.

The light novel series Vampire Hunter D uses this formula for each individual book.​
Everywhere he goes, D meets a new partner with a vampire problem. Once he fixes their problems and kills the local vampire, he leaves them behind happy and satisfied.​


In Conclusion...​

So, how do smut writers write their smut?
-- With loving descriptions and careful attention to detail.

How smutty should the smut be?
-- Enough to actually get one's target reading audience tight and tingly in their britches!

Where should one put the smut, so it won't obstruct the actual plot?
-- Where it belongs; as an important mover and shaker of the plot all by itself.

I hope this proves helpful...
Do men honestly like rape…? They glorify rape that much? No wonder why women are scared of them. Fiction or not, it reflects a person a lot. :blob_hmm_two:
 

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Huh. I didn't realise I was writing female-oriented scenes all this time. I meant most were 3K+ (up to 7K) but i thought that is how they normally should be written. I always felt short scenes to be too quick.
It's not that your scenes were "female-oriented," merely that longer scenes tend to appeal to the female reading audience.

The real question is; what are you describing in those scenes? Look closely at what you detail in your scenes. Is it the characters appearances? Their specific actions? Their feelings? Their physical reactions? Their emotional reactions?

What exactly are you describing and how detailed are your descriptions? Knowing this will give you a much better idea of what type of reading audience your stories attract.
 

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:blob_hmm_two: odd... After reading this, I realized I'm not writing for a U.S. reader base (though my story contains smut, it's not the focus), and yet the U.S. is the top reading country... Hmm....
Do men honestly like rape…? They glorify rape that much? No wonder why women are scared of them. Fiction or not, it reflects a person a lot. :blob_hmm_two:
No, we do not. That is a disgusting thing to think, as much as thinking women love to get raped. Redo of a Healer is extremely popular among female consumers, yet nobody assumes that's why they get raped and not report it because they must enjoy it. Both are disgusting things to even consider as truth.
 

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Do men honestly like rape…? They glorify rape that much? No wonder why women are scared of them. Fiction or not, it reflects a person a lot. :blob_hmm_two:
Men as a rule don't like rape, not actual rape. They don't like even the idea of hurting a female. However, it is a common stroke fantasy. I asked at a coffee shop close to a college in NC. You would not believe how many guys openly admitted to that sort of fantasy -- but the idea of actually raping someone disgusted them.

However... Look at the adult games, manga, manhua, and anime marketed toward men. Also, look at the harem stories and BL stories being translated from China, Japan, and Korea. Rape is an all too common theme.
 
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It's not that your scenes were "female-oriented," merely that longer scenes tend to appeal to the female reading audience.

The real question is; what are you describing in those scenes? Look closely at what you detail in your scenes. Is it the characters appearances? Their specific actions? Their feelings? Their physical reactions? Their emotional reactions?

What exactly are you describing and how detailed are your descriptions? Knowing this will give you a much better idea of what type of reading audience your stories attract.
All of the above? I would say. Depends on the scene. most of the time i gravitate towards the emotions and describe them through descriptions of physical actions
:blob_hmm_two: odd... After reading this, I realized I'm not writing for a U.S. reader base (though my story contains smut, it's not the focus), and yet the U.S. is the top reading country... Hmm....

No, we do not. That is a disgusting thing to think, as much as thinking women love to get raped. Redo of a Healer is extremely popular among female consumers, yet nobody assumes that's why they get raped and not report it because they must enjoy it. Both are disgusting things to even consider as truth.
Afaik the redo was a mistranslation - they commented that they had a surprisingly higher amount of female readers than they expected. not that it was extremely popular.
 

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All of the above? I would say. Depends on the scene. most of the time i gravitate towards the emotions and describe them through descriptions of physical actions
If your descriptions tend to focus on the emotions in your smut scenes, then Yes, the reader base for those stories are probably females who enjoy Romance stories.
 
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Interesting to know, albeit I wasn't really trying to do either. I just wanted to learn how to write better by doing. Wasn't really planning on hitting a specific audience. just trying not to shy away from any scene.
 

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All of the above? I would say. Depends on the scene. most of the time i gravitate towards the emotions and describe them through descriptions of physical actions

Afaik the redo was a mistranslation - they commented that they had a surprisingly higher amount of female readers than they expected. not that it was extremely popular.
Not according to what the author himself had to say in an interview. And it's okay if women read it. It doesn't mean their fantasy is to get raped. They themselves stated in a poll that the revenge aspect of justice by the mc's hand is what attracts them, not the rape scenes by themselves. Now, polls are not really representative of reality, but it's a base to form a hypothesis.
Also, look at the adult games, manga, manhua, and anime marketed toward men. Also, look at the harem stories and BL stories being translated from China, Japan, and Korea. Rape is an all too common theme.
True, very true. Now, the amount of clowning those games/fictions get is greater than the amount of readers. They are not marketed towards men, they're targeted to people with that fetish, both men and women. I think you're purely looking at the product here, instead of the consumer base reaction to said products, which is honestly more important in this context. Your opinion is misleading, unfortunately.
It should come to a huge surprise, then, that the most popular/controvertial Harem manga/anime of the last decade is written by a woman, for men. Domestic na Kanojo, which topped rental girlfriend, where the protagonist buys a girl's time and attention.
Domestic na Kanojo was a tale of hurt, romance, family, societal barriers, taboo, and self discovery. No rape, no 'male fantasy'. Odd... it's almost as if us men don't really have a rape fantasy in any measure.
 
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