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Cauldrons

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I am not too sure if I should be posting this here, it might be a bit too much of a confrontational way to ask about this, but I honestly have no clue what to make of it. I'm not too good at understanding context clues & interactions with other people so the best way to figure it out is to ask I guess.
Context: I was point out that even though one of the main characters love interest's thought the MC was a very honest person I pointed out the fact that the MC was essentially lying about something very important I.E. her very identity. (Being a reincarnated individual and all)
This is what I commented:
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I was a little too hostile with my final reply I will admit, but other than that the only thing I can think of is it being is the author viewing my initial reply much more hostility than I intended.

What did the author mean by me being 'one of those'?
Was I rude in the way I wrote or not rude?

Sorry if this isn't something I should post but I am honestly baffled about what brought about the authors response.
 

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Although your question is valid, you did seem a bit rude in your reply as you sound as if you knew their character better than them, the author. Even though their response question is only asking for clarification. The response you gave to their response question also made you sound immature and kind of a jerk. I know that it probably wasn't the best for them to refer to you as "one of those" but you only made yourself look bad. Even if it wasn't intentional, your wording does look like you're mad at them. You may be right as the context you gave doesn't really paint a clear picture but this does not sound like a constructive criticism or a considerate question, but rather, a judgemental call out.
 

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I'm not sure what 'one of those' is either (maybe he meant those that nitpicks or trolls?) but although you are probably right with your reasoning, your wording sounds a bit too hostile. (question marks and all. Makes it look like you're saying that the author don't know their own characters)
 
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It's difficult for authors to respond to comments we don't agree with. We feel angry when our art goes over someone's head, especially when others have told us that they do indeed understand and appreciate how we used just the right words to convey what needed to be conveyed without burdening the reader with an infodump. Here's what I keep handy to copy and paste when I don't intend to change a thing:

"Thanks for your thorough and thoughtful review. I will keep your suggestions in mind for my next rewrite."

I don't say when my next rewrite will be, and I don't promise to actually use the suggestions, just keep them in mind.
 

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As a writer, we get a lot of questions regarding our characters. In the end, it's the writer who will know the character best. They have the story and motivations in mind. I think it's fine for readers to explain their feelings and understanding of the characters from their point of view, but I don't think it's okay for them to act as if they are writing the story. Maybe the writer was a tad hostile with their response, but the opening comment sounded a tab high brow too.

In the end, it's over. Let it go.
 

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I am not too sure if I should be posting this here, it might be a bit too much of a confrontational way to ask about this, but I honestly have no clue what to make of it. I'm not too good at understanding context clues & interactions with other people so the best way to figure it out is to ask I guess.
Context: I was point out that even though one of the main characters love interest's thought the MC was a very honest person I pointed out the fact that the MC was essentially lying about something very important I.E. her very identity. (Being a reincarnated individual and all)
This is what I commented:View attachment 15898I was a little too hostile with my final reply I will admit, but other than that the only thing I can think of is it being is the author viewing my initial reply much more hostility than I intended.

What did the author mean by me being 'one of those'?
Was I rude in the way I wrote or not rude?

Sorry if this isn't something I should post but I am honestly baffled about what brought about the authors response.
Why do you think that MC being honest about her past life memories even matter? How would it affect her friends? She had knowledge of them how? Is this an otome game situation where she has knowledge of the game characters that are now real, or something? How would she extend this same courtesy, anyway?

I dont see how any of this affects the story or characters and being "honest" never meant you told people every last detail about your life. Its not a lie just because i never told anyone what my favorite genre of porn is, (i have told people that before tho ((incest)) ) its just not something even usually brought up.

If somone staight asked "hey do you have memories of your past life?" And you answer no when you really do, THATS a lie.

Lies by ommision is always the dumbest fucking thing i hear brought up. Again, these topics usually dont even come up in conversation, so until they are brought up no one can call me a liar or dishonest just because i dont tell you how i like my ass tickled during sex at our first meeting.

EDIT: anyway you arent in the wrong, author was being a defensive cunt about questions they couldnt answer but you had kinda a weird take on it in my opinion too. Again, how does being honest about that matter to the story or characters unless they are specifically abusing that info?
 

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I am not too sure if I should be posting this here, it might be a bit too much of a confrontational way to ask about this, but I honestly have no clue what to make of it. I'm not too good at understanding context clues & interactions with other people so the best way to figure it out is to ask I guess.
Context: I was point out that even though one of the main characters love interest's thought the MC was a very honest person I pointed out the fact that the MC was essentially lying about something very important I.E. her very identity. (Being a reincarnated individual and all)
This is what I commented:View attachment 15898I was a little too hostile with my final reply I will admit, but other than that the only thing I can think of is it being is the author viewing my initial reply much more hostility than I intended.

What did the author mean by me being 'one of those'?
Was I rude in the way I wrote or not rude?

Sorry if this isn't something I should post but I am honestly baffled about what brought about the authors response.
Be more confrontational
 

Cauldrons

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Why do you think that MC being honest about her past life memories even matter? How would it affect her friends? She had knowledge of them how? Is this an otome game situation where she has knowledge of the game characters that are now real, or something? How would she extend this same courtesy, anyway?

I dont see how any of this affects the story or characters and being "honest" never meant you told people every last detail about your life. Its not a lie just because i never told anyone what my favorite genre of porn is, (i have told people that before tho ((incest)) ) its just not something even usually brought up.

If somone staight asked "hey do you have memories of your past life?" And you answer no when you really do, THATS a lie.

Lies by ommision is always the dumbest fucking thing i hear brought up. Again, these topics usually dont even come up in conversation, so until they are brought up no one can call me a liar or dishonest just because i dont tell you how i like my ass tickled during sex at our first meeting.

EDIT: anyway you arent in the wrong, author was being a defensive cunt about questions they couldnt answer but you had kinda a weird take on it in my opinion too. Again, how does being honest about that matter to the story or characters unless they are specifically abusing that info?
I can admit that my perspective is a little weird but I still think it's somewhat valid. For reference the story is about someone getting reincarnated as a dc character in the marvel universe. My view on it when I was commenting on it was that since she knew so much about her lovers even things they didn't willingly divulge with her then she should reciprocate in some way. I know this is a common problem in a lot of stories and I could fault them all like that but the author specifically calling the mc super honest irked me.
 

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What i'm seeing is the phrasing in your reply. All you do is ask rhetorical questions. It doesn't read like a geniune response to their question. It reads like you are being extremely condescending. As if all of this information is obvious and they're stupid for not knowing it or thinking about it. This is made exponentially worse by saying it to the author.

It looks like your entire purpose was to make them feel stupid/ talk down to them. People are commenting about the content of the discussion but I don't think this matters.

Ask me a question I'll show you what i mean.
 

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It took courage for a gal to ask Darcy to become part of a polyamorous relationship; any other human would have lied to Darcy and strung her along until she discovered the truth. One of the things Darcy loved the most about Blackfire was that she was honest and not a liar and always true to herself.
You asked for context, so I looked up the full context in paragraph.

The way I see it, author wrote the latter part, which you complained, only in polyamorous relationship context.

I get your complain, and it's also one of the many things I sometimes think of in reincarnation/transmigration stories. I guess it's a valid question.

But... my assumption is that author honestly didn't get your problem, because 'honesty' in this case only means for polyamorous relationship (edit: and while a little unclear, I believe author asked you to elaborate why the character in question's past life is important in this context). Yet by your next reply, all I get is only an unnecessarily hostile remarks and questions (which others apt to call it rude, condescending, sardonic). And by "you're one of those", I guess they believe you just hate polyamorous relationship, so they don't see any reason to reply you anymore.

I guess you can call this a bit of a reach, but hey...
 
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Closed minded people sure have it hard these days; this to say that your question came to validate your doubt, and by all means it made sense. A little sad it got cut off, but eh~
The only suggestion I could make is you reply once more, apologise for any wrong ideas the author might have gotten from your comment, and explain things in a simpler way so the person can reach your own side of the board, or completely disregard the matter, good luck.
~~♤
 

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The answer seemed fine to me. Using question marks like this just means the answers are evident to the one writing it, it looks confrontational because people react more than they think... especially online. It's like writing "I think X, why is it that you don't see it my way?" Which is a legit question most of the time but is infuriating to some. Maybe they feel it's insulting not to understand the other ? Food for thought.
 

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I can admit that my perspective is a little weird but I still think it's somewhat valid. For reference the story is about someone getting reincarnated as a dc character in the marvel universe. My view on it when I was commenting on it was that since she knew so much about her lovers even things they didn't willingly divulge with her then she should reciprocate in some way. I know this is a common problem in a lot of stories and I could fault them all like that but the author specifically calling the mc super honest irked me.
Sure, but like i said honesty doesnt involve you tellibg people every little detail about your life.

But DC universe has had weirder things than reincarnation so the MC could totally tell them the truth if she really wanted and no one would probably been too shocked or in disbelief.
 

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I am not too sure if I should be posting this here, it might be a bit too much of a confrontational way to ask about this, but I honestly have no clue what to make of it. I'm not too good at understanding context clues & interactions with other people so the best way to figure it out is to ask I guess.
Context: I was point out that even though one of the main characters love interest's thought the MC was a very honest person I pointed out the fact that the MC was essentially lying about something very important I.E. her very identity. (Being a reincarnated individual and all)
This is what I commented:View attachment 15898I was a little too hostile with my final reply I will admit, but other than that the only thing I can think of is it being is the author viewing my initial reply much more hostility than I intended.

What did the author mean by me being 'one of those'?
Was I rude in the way I wrote or not rude?

Sorry if this isn't something I should post but I am honestly baffled about what brought about the authors response.
Suggestion for future occasions in case you make a thread like this again:

Censor the author's name.

In this case it was no big deal, so like... Whatever. But if the author was actually being a huge annoyance and the like, this thread would have ended up being a sort of indirect attack on the author, which is just... Bad.

Censor the name on the other party next time. We really don't need to know who is the person you were arguing with.
 

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Suggestion for future occasions in case you make a thread like this again:

Censor the author's name.

In this case it was no big deal, so like... Whatever. But if the author was actually being a huge annoyance and the like, this thread would have ended up being a sort of indirect attack on the author, which is just... Bad.

Censor the name on the other party next time. We really don't need to know who is the person you were arguing with.
Plot twist:
the poster and the author staged their arguments. The purpose of this thread is to attract more readers to the story.
 

Cauldrons

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Suggestion for future occasions in case you make a thread like this again:

Censor the author's name.

In this case it was no big deal, so like... Whatever. But if the author was actually being a huge annoyance and the like, this thread would have ended up being a sort of indirect attack on the author, which is just... Bad.

Censor the name on the other party next time. We really don't need to know who is the person you were arguing with.
I'll keep that in mind for the future didn't really occur to me since I know nothing about editing. Changing the size & cropping is as far as my skills go.
 

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I'll keep that in mind for the future didn't really occur to me since I know nothing about editing. Changing the size & cropping is as far as my skills go.
It's as simple as throwing the image in MS Paint and then using the pen function to put a black blur on top of the name~

You don't need to get fancy with this kind of thing~
 

Cauldrons

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It's as simple as throwing the image in MS Paint and then using the pen function to put a black blur on top of the name~

You don't need to get fancy with this kind of thing~
That being said I still don't think it would have mattered since you could just go on my profile and see the whole conversation anyways so I didn't think it was a big deal to not black it out.
 
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