[Disc] How do you, as a reader, feel when a novel you like signs on as premium exclusive on webnovel?

Stratothrax

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I see a lot of people talking about support on patreon/ko-fi/etc, but in my experience as an author, asking readers to pay based on the honor system doesn't actually...work?

I wouldn't bundle patreon in with the honour system/ko-fi. You pay money on patreon to read chapters that you would either not normally be able to access or to get early access to time-locked chapters, that's paying money for an actual product. From what I've seen it seems like a pretty profitable system.
 

tigerine

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I wouldn't bundle patreon in with the honour system/ko-fi. You pay money on patreon to read chapters that you would either not normally be able to access or to get early access to time-locked chapters, that's paying money for an actual product. From what I've seen it seems like a pretty profitable system.
Time-locking things seems silly; people will just wait so they don't have to pay, because the product being purchased on patreon is not the actual chapter or piece. It's buying satisfaction as early as possible. There's entire threads about reading right away or waiting to binge something until there's x number of chapters out. They're not talking about 'damn I can't wait to buy all these chapters at once'.

And if it's material that you can't get outside of patreon, how much time is being spent providing free content versus paid content? Is the story being told the same for people who aren't paying versus people who are? And like, the piracy? That definitely relies on the honor system, because you're essentially just hoping your readers don't take advantage of you and scrape everything off your patreon.
 

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I see a lot of people talking about support on patreon/ko-fi/etc, but in my experience as an author, asking readers to pay based on the honor system doesn't actually...work?

I have said that if someone feels my work should be rewarded, they can send me a ko-fi or a tip or whatever. After I had been publishing chapters of this web serial for a year, I worked out how much money I made: 0.007 cents a word. Industry rates even for the most basic clickbait non-fiction article writing is still a penny a word (2-3 cents a word is more normal, and 5-6 cents a word is more like a living wage.) That's two orders of magnitude more than I am making for original, heavily researched fiction by an expert writer with over 20 years of writing experience.

Saying that you would just drop the novel rather than support the author is heartbreaking. Your chances to directly support someone's work come through making them feel like their work has value in patreon, ko-fi, etc. If an author signed with webnovel, it's because webnovel was promising them money that entitled readers weren't giving them for their work.

At the end of the day, you're not getting paid if you're not getting paid. Of course, if you give out your work for free most will want to read it for free. Relying on patreon? Well of course there's risks. There's risks in everything and everywhere, and no amount of experience can change that. It's up to the author to find out which method makes them the most money, and has the least risks. You can adjust your methods depending on your preferences, but asking the reader to step up and make you money because staying with the book feels like an obligation to them, seems borderline irresponsible and most likely, (most likely. I ain't a professional) incredibly inefficient. The reader came there to entertain themselves and not everyone is going to step past the "reading for free" stage. If you want to shorten your readerbase, and in turn make a living off writing, that's fine. If you want to do the opposite that's fine too.

Honestly, I don't really understand my point in writing this because I neither have professional experience nor average level intelligence.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that, a reader not supporting the author once they charge money for their work, is not a point of inadequacy on the readers part, it a business decision on the authors part.

Ah I know! I wrote this because I got butthurt about what you said because I never pay to read things. :blobthumbsup:
 
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tigerine

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Honestly, I don't really understand my point in writing this because I neither have professional experience nor average level intelligence.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that, a reader not supporting the author once they charge money for their work, is not a point of inadequacy on the readers part, it a business decision on the authors part.

Ah I know! I wrote this because I got butthurt about you said because I never pay to read things. :blobthumbsup:

Hit dogs holler, I guess.
 
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If that happens to me again, Ill have to drop the novel with a big hole in my heart depending on how much I liked the novel. Otherwise Ill just wait untill someone can steal pirate Borrow the work so that I can read it on some third party website.
 

BenJepheneT

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If it's like WattPad where I have to PAY to read it, dropped it is. But quality speaks for itself. If it's so good that I HAVE to pay it so I could read it, then good for the author.
 
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