Future of Scribble Hub

[Deleted member 2533]

Been out of SH for some time since I joined. I can say a lot had changed. Especially the ranking system which I've also learned was temporary and there'll be a new one implemented. But no one knows when it will be except Tony-san.

I actually contemplated about posting this in <General> but I thought it involved the future of SH. But if somebody of Tony-san wills it. I'll gladly take this post down myself (which I couldn't by the way ). Anyways, I'll just be leaving my sentiments here about what I saw then realized looking at 'Trending' and 'Latest Series'. Though I already noticed this before but I think a Series will be less read if it does not belong to a category/tag with things sensual. I was shocked to open a series and saw a tag <Masturbation>. I said to myself, "Oof. It's happening." The thing I feared most, Scribble Hub turning to Erotica Hub.

I dunno why it was allowed. I might have missed something like an update and such things were already allowed. It's not like this site is PG-13, right? Though I can still accept Harems, but to a point there's also <Incest> and <Masturbation> tag feels like crossing over the line. Those tags were only used in sites like Literotica (I admit reading on that site and I am not a ashamed). Well oh wells, I think someone might also argue that this is an 'Original' series site and everything is accepted. Well, I don't give a damn. By this point, I don't know what I'm already saying.

P.S. still staying and love the free platform of SH. To all the guys who know me @Lambchops in the SH Discord, I miss ya'll.

 

[MyLadyQueen]

I did not know those tags existed but whatever, the only downside is that the tags sometimes spoil content of a book, you know, sometimes it should just be a surprise.

 

[Nneeil]

I did not know those tags existed but whatever, the only downside is that the tags sometimes spoil content of a book, you know, sometimes it should just be a surprise.

They act as a sort of warning as well, so you can decide by yourself whether to read the story based on the tags alone or not. It's better than dropping it later on because you didn't like the surprise.

 

[AliceShiki]

Been out of SH for some time since I joined. I can say a lot had changed. Especially the ranking system which I've also learned was temporary and there'll be a new one implemented. But no one knows when it will be except Tony-san.

I actually contemplated about posting this in <General> but I thought it involved the future of SH. But if somebody of Tony-san wills it. I'll gladly take this post down myself (which I couldn't by the way ). Anyways, I'll just be leaving my sentiments here about what I saw then realized looking at 'Trending' and 'Latest Series'. Though I already noticed this before but I think a Series will be less read if it does not belong to a category/tag with things sensual. I was shocked to open a series and saw a tag <Masturbation>. I said to myself, "Oof. It's happening." The thing I feared most, Scribble Hub turning to Erotica Hub.

I dunno why it was allowed. I might have missed something like an update and such things were already allowed. It's not like this site is PG-13, right? Though I can still accept Harems, but to a point there's also <Incest> and <Masturbation> tag feels like crossing over the line. Those tags were only used in sites like Literotica (I admit reading on that site and I am not a ashamed). Well oh wells, I think someone might also argue that this is an 'Original' series site and everything is accepted. Well, I don't give a damn. By this point, I don't know what I'm already saying.

P.S. still staying and love the free platform of SH. To all the guys who know me @Lambchops in the SH Discord, I miss ya'll.

I'm pretty sure no tags have been added to the database from the moment Scribbly was created. It just ported over the tags from NU, the masturbation tag has been there since the beginning.

Tony-chan is fine with the site having erotic content as well as having non-H content, so there is nothing to worry about. If anything, I'm curious about how things will go once ads are added to the site and things start getting monetized, because Ad Sense doesn't like putting ads in R-18 content and what not, but uhn... That's something Tony-chan will handle when the ads are added~

As for your feeling about stories being disadvantaged if they aren't erotic... I think you're overworrying and looking at the front page with a biased perspective. As in, non-H stories kinda go unnoticed by you because they're "normal", but every erotic story ends up getting noticed because it gives you a feeling of unease. Therefore most stories you notice on the front page end up being erotic stories, even if they aren't the majority.

Look no further than the Series Ranking by Popularity, you'll see that there is only a handful of erotic stories on the top spots.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

I'm pretty sure no tags have been added to the database from the moment Scribbly was created. It just ported over the tags from NU, the masturbation tag has been there since the beginning.

Tony-chan is fine with the site having erotic content as well as having non-H content, so there is nothing to worry about. If anything, I'm curious about how things will go once ads are added to the site and things start getting monetized, because Ad Sense doesn't like putting ads in R-18 content and what not, but uhn... That's something Tony-chan will handle when the ads are added~

As for your feeling about stories being disadvantaged if they aren't erotic... I think you're overworrying and looking at the front page with a biased perspective. As in, non-H stories kinda go unnoticed by you because they're "normal", but every erotic story ends up getting noticed because it gives you a feeling of unease. Therefore most stories you notice on the front page end up being erotic stories, even if they aren't the majority.

Look no further than the Series Ranking by Popularity, you'll see that there is only a handful of erotic stories on the top spots.

That is a qualitative analysis, but not a quantitative one. We would have to compare not only their presence on the front page - that alone doesn't say anything -, but how much attention they get in relation to their number and whether they are statically noticeably - which I believe is the case - overrepresented.

 

[Phantomheart]

I'm pretty sure no tags have been added to the database from the moment Scribbly was created. It just ported over the tags from NU, the masturbation tag has been there since the beginning.

Tony-chan is fine with the site having erotic content as well as having non-H content, so there is nothing to worry about. If anything, I'm curious about how things will go once ads are added to the site and things start getting monetized, because Ad Sense doesn't like putting ads in R-18 content and what not, but uhn... That's something Tony-chan will handle when the ads are added~

As for your feeling about stories being disadvantaged if they aren't erotic... I think you're overworrying and looking at the front page with a biased perspective. As in, non-H stories kinda go unnoticed by you because they're "normal", but every erotic story ends up getting noticed because it gives you a feeling of unease. Therefore most stories you notice on the front page end up being erotic stories, even if they aren't the majority.

Look no further than the Series Ranking by Popularity, you'll see that there is only a handful of erotic stories on the top spots.

Agreeing with Shiki here, the ranking system isn’t full of H stories because there are a lot of H stories, but because that it what the readers are reading, commenting, and favoriting.
In a manner of speaking, these novels are just becoming the most popular, however they do not represent the lot of the site.
You’ll find an abundance of normal stories compared to H stories, but people are just reading H stories more. This could be based on the fact they are H stories or even that they are extremely well written, who knows.
Not to mention, stories with erotic titles are usually barred from trending? If you have explicit language in the title they usually are barred from appearing on the trending list. However, I could be wrong about.
I think it’s just the change of demographic if anything else.

 

[CupcakeNinja]

Been out of SH for some time since I joined. I can say a lot had changed. Especially the ranking system which I've also learned was temporary and there'll be a new one implemented. But no one knows when it will be except Tony-san.

I actually contemplated about posting this in <General> but I thought it involved the future of SH. But if somebody of Tony-san wills it. I'll gladly take this post down myself (which I couldn't by the way ). Anyways, I'll just be leaving my sentiments here about what I saw then realized looking at 'Trending' and 'Latest Series'. Though I already noticed this before but I think a Series will be less read if it does not belong to a category/tag with things sensual. I was shocked to open a series and saw a tag <Masturbation>. I said to myself, "Oof. It's happening." The thing I feared most, Scribble Hub turning to Erotica Hub.

I dunno why it was allowed. I might have missed something like an update and such things were already allowed. It's not like this site is PG-13, right? Though I can still accept Harems, but to a point there's also <Incest> and <Masturbation> tag feels like crossing over the line. Those tags were only used in sites like Literotica (I admit reading on that site and I am not a ashamed). Well oh wells, I think someone might also argue that this is an 'Original' series site and everything is accepted. Well, I don't give a damn. By this point, I don't know what I'm already saying.

P.S. still staying and love the free platform of SH. To all the guys who know me @Lambchops in the SH Discord, I miss ya'll.

Fuk you incest is beautiful okay?
Tho i get you fam. I mean i dont see why a tsg like Masturbation is...like, necessary? I mean, why? Just....why? It contributes nothing.

Also expecting this to be like a serious writing platform like rrl or wattpad is wrong to begn with.

And while erotic works are present and popular i feel the ones that frequently appear on trending are a lot more mainstream usually

 

[Vhail]

So what you would be looking for is maybe a trending for H novels and another non H novel ?

 

[Deleted member 2533]

So what you would be looking for is maybe a trending for H novels and another non H novel ?

Nah, this isn't a Looking for... thread.

 

[Deleted member 2533]

Fuk you incest is beautiful okay?
Tho i get you fam. I mean i dont see why a tsg like Masturbation is...like, necessary? I mean, why? Just....why? It contributes nothing.

Also expecting this to be like a serious writing platform like rrl or wattpad is wrong to begn with.

And while erotic works are present and popular i feel the ones that frequently appear on trending are a lot more mainstream usually

Lmao you don't have to curse on me. Tho might be an 'expression' or simply trolling. Im okay with it anyway.

I have question. Can you please clarify why this site shouldn't be taken seriously? why is this site a hoolabaloo site? I admit I am in the wrong here. XD

And Id like to say, I agree with your last paragraph.

 

[Deleted member 2533]

Another thing you're overlooking -- SH does not allow PWP stories. So even if there is an uptick in erotica as people find this place as a safe harbour for adult oriented writing (which like... I dunno. Masturbation isn't even inherently sexual to me, I could write a very non-titillating masturbation scene with no effort), it will never became an erotica focused site. PWP is the lifeblood of erotica after all.

uhhh I said "things sensual". And yeah, I too realized stories with them existed since the beginning of literature. For instance, Helen of Troy because, Romance.

By the way, what's PWP?

 

[NiQuinn]

Can you please clarify why this site shouldn't be taken seriously?

I think it has something to do with the fact that SH is new compared to those bigger sites. Writers have more freedom here to be creative than on others since it's practically just a baby. SH is still finding its roots right now so the selection of stories is still kind of strange up to this point.

As for it turning to an Erotica hub, I highly doubt it. A few months back, there were more R-18 stories here but they've actually lessened as time went on. Admittedly, some tags are just highly suspect but I do appreciate them since I treat them as a sort of warning.

 

[CupcakeNinja]

Lmao you don't have to curse on me. Tho might be an 'expression' or simply trolling. Im okay with it anyway.

I have question. Can you please clarify why this site shouldn't be taken seriously? why is this site a hoolabaloo site? I admit I am in the wrong here. XD

And Id like to say, I agree with your last paragraph.

Heh. Yeah dont take offense fam. It IS an expression. One i stick by, but mean no harm in.

Anyway, well from the perspective of a dude who has been part of NUF since the early days, its just....like, tony is a lax guy? And so is the community.

Hell tony even made a NUFDating website for the laughs once--i didnt even know it was a joke thing till recently too.

So this website, as like a baby of NU and NUF, well, it just doesn't feel very "official" and whatnot. Sure its a legit writing platform but you can tell its not quite the same as others. You come here and your write and you speak on these forums and it feels like you know people, yeah? Royalroad, wattpad, i dunno it just dont seem to have the same thing going on at least in my opinion.

It doesnt feel like a bunch of try-hard authors really working to be a professional writter--tho we have some here who really pursue that goal, some who self published too--its more like a bunch of people doing it more for fun or to improve their writting skills. This isnt bad and you do find good works now and again but it also means the whole atmosphere is wayyy more chill than other places ive been.

What NiQuinn said is also a reason for it. Since its a smaller site you dont get overwhelmed

 

[AliceShiki]

That is a qualitative analysis, but not a quantitative one. We would have to compare not only their presence on the front page - that alone doesn't say anything -, but how much attention they get in relation to their number and whether they are statically noticeably - which I believe is the case - overrepresented.

OP said that R-18 stories have a bigger chance of success as opposed to non-H stories. In that case shouldn't the analysis be qualitative by default? We want to know if the % of non-H stories that are popular is bigger or smaller than the % of R-18 ones... In that case we should exclude all non-popular stories from the analysis.

The front page is an easy and straight-forward way of looking at the popularity of stories, and so is looking at the ranking.

Not to mention, stories with erotic titles are usually barred from trending? If you have explicit language in the title they usually are barred from appearing on the trending list. However, I could be wrong about.

I think they aren't, pretty sure I saw them a few times there.

Like... Just did a quick check now, and at rank #25 at trending there is a sex beast system novel atm. And I'm pretty sure I saw it a few times in the front page already. (since only the top 10 or top 9 appear in the front page)

Nah, this isn't a Looking for... thread.

Lmao you don't have to curse on me. Tho might be an 'expression' or simply trolling. Im okay with it anyway.

I have question. Can you please clarify why this site shouldn't be taken seriously? why is this site a hoolabaloo site? I admit I am in the wrong here. XD

And Id like to say, I agree with your last paragraph.

uhhh I said "things sensual". And yeah, I too realized stories with them existed since the beginning of literature. For instance, Helen of Troy because, Romance.

By the way, what's PWP?

Please don't triple post, use the "+Quote" button at the bottom right of each post to reply to multiple people at once.

PWP means "Plot? What Plot?" which refers to pornographic stories with 0 plot to them and that basically resume themselves to just one erotic moment after the other.

... I had to google it myself to find out tbh, which was kinda funny, because the top result was "pulmonary wedge pressure", which I'm pretty sure is not what Flucket was referring to! xD

Luckily, Urban Dictionary had the right definition~

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

OP said that R-18 stories have a bigger chance of success as opposed to non-H stories. In that case shouldn't the analysis be qualitative by default? We want to know if the % of non-H stories that are popular is bigger or smaller than the % of R-18 ones... In that case we should exclude all non-popular stories from the analysis.

The front page is an easy and straight-forward way of looking at the popularity of stories, and so is looking at the ranking.

I think they aren't, pretty sure I saw them a few times there.

Like... Just did a quick check now, and at rank #25 at trending there is a sex beast system novel atm. And I'm pretty sure I saw it a few times in the front page already. (since only the top 10 or top 9 appear in the front page)



Please don't triple post, use the "+Quote" button at the bottom right of each post to reply to multiple people at once.

PWP means "Plot? What Plot?" which refers to pornographic stories with 0 plot to them and that basically resume themselves to just one erotic moment after the other.

... I had to google it myself to find out tbh, which was kinda funny, because the top result was "pulmonary wedge pressure", which I'm pretty sure is not what Flucket was referring to! xD

Luckily, Urban Dictionary had the right definition~

No, the point is very simple, the trending page shows only a result in absolute terms but not in relative. You say that only, for example, 2/10 stories are more or less soft porn and therefore they are not hugely successful. But you analysis ignores the more decisive point and is therefore misleading or disingenous, are 2/10 of the stories on ScribbleHub soft porn? Are 20% of the stories like that? Does the number of these stories on the front page correspond with the number of these stories written here? I think not.

If we compare their percentages of stories present on this site, then we will notice that this stuff is decisive more successful that it should, or rather more successful than statistical probability would indicate. And I personally doubt it is because of their literary quality.

 

[AliceShiki]

are 2/10 of the stories on ScribbleHub soft porn? Are 20% of the stories like that? Does the number of these stories on the front page correspond with the number of these stories written here? I think not.

But the point of argument was not rather or not Scribbly is filled with erotic stories, but rather or not you have bigger chances of success by writing an erotic story or not.

In that case, we need to look at the successful stories, not at the overall picture.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

But the point of argument was not rather or not Scribbly is filled with erotic stories, but rather or not you have bigger chances of success by writing an erotic story or not.

In that case, we need to look at the successful stories, not at the overall picture.

Your logic is interesting. So you define you success apparently only by output regardless of the input? So in your opinion only the "results" count and not the availability of resources and probability?

According to you, an input of 10 with an output of 2 is more successful than an input of 2 with an output of 1. The former has a ratio of 5:1 and the latter 2:1, but apparently 5:1 is in your opinion more successful because we "need to look at the successful stories, not at the overall picture."

Interesting as I said. Not only was I wrong, but also the inventors of all kind game theories.

 

[AliceShiki]

Your logic is interesting. So you define you success apparently only by output regardless of the input? So in your opinion only the "results" count and not the availability of resources and probability?

According to you, an input of 10 with an output of 2 is more successful than an input of 2 with an output of 1. The former has a ratio of 5:1 and the latter 2:1, but apparently 5:1 is in your opinion more successful because we "need to look at the successful stories, not at the overall picture."

Interesting as I said. Not only was I wrong, but also the inventors of all kind game theories.

I have no clue what you're talking about, but I assume you're using some clunky probability to illustrate your point? I don't see how that makes it valid when we are talking about something that doesn't depend on chance, but on reader tastes and story quality.

That said, I didn't understand a thing you said in your last post, so please correct me if I got the wrong idea from it.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

I have no clue what you're talking about, but I assume you're using some clunky probability to illustrate your point? I don't see how that makes it valid when we are talking about something that doesn't depend on chance, but on reader tastes and story quality.

That said, I didn't understand a thing you said in your last post, so please correct me if I got the wrong idea from it.

Let's just agree that we disagree. I have the feeling you won't understand regardless of what I say, albeit probability is not a difficult concept.

 

[Moshi]

I have no clue what you're talking about, but I assume you're using some clunky probability to illustrate your point? I don't see how that makes it valid when we are talking about something that doesn't depend on chance, but on reader tastes and story quality.

That said, I didn't understand a thing you said in your last post, so please correct me if I got the wrong idea from it.

I assume what he meant was that your measurement was "probability of a story on trending being R18" while his measurement was "probability of a R18 story reaching trending".

Both are valid, depending on what you're trying to get at, but since we are discussing how much the success of a story depends on the erotic content, it should be the latter.