Lolicons: To Condems or To Be Let Free

Should Lolicons...

  • Be Condemned

    Votes: 12 36.4%
  • Be Let Free

    Votes: 15 45.5%
  • ..Sorry I have no stance on this.

    Votes: 6 18.2%

  • Total voters
    33

Generik0

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So Umm I'm interested.

Why do so many anime fans defend lolicons? Even though many people outside of the community heavily demonize it.

This also applies to shotacons.

For me, I have neutral ground but I wanted to see the opinions of Scribble Hub users on this hot take.
 
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Agentt

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Well, firstly, lolicons are very very very different from pedophiles.

Cuz real life kids are very very very different from lolis, the anime version.

So, its just another tag for me, nothing else.
 

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EVERY POST THAT EVERYONE HAS EVER MADE ON THIS THREAD IS SATIRE. I DO NOT CONDONE NOR SUPPORT ANY OF THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED ON THIS THREAD.

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ArcadiaBlade

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I don't defend lolicons or anything but they are mostly people that tend to get misunderstand a lot. and what I mean a lot, is that they really REALLY get misunderstand a lot.

Basically is that they are comparable to murderous psychopaths and mentally inept people.

They just like young girls but they prefer to treasure them like how parents treasure children. Pedophiles are sexual devients that drives pleasure from sexually assulting children. Lolicons are tend to be misunderstand since some of them are just drive from the pleasure of hugging and being close to children, but not in the way of sexually harrassing them.

I have talked to some lolicons and I can assure you that they are basically been discriminated a lot due to being compared to pedophiles and also hardcore lolicons.

Well, they also couldn't blame them since once you walk on a dark path, you will either stop or keep moving deeper in the darkness.
 

Gastic

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Just say fucking pedophile, I don’t care if it’s a drawing or not an actual child because “she’s 3 quintillion years old and a dragon” the design is based off of children, liking short girls is fine but basing it off of little girls is gross don’t even debate me on this. Liking a shorty is all cool small tits and a fat ass or petite build is fine but fuck basing it off of girls the height of a five year old and everything else corresponding to it, it’s gross and I’m not even going to try to be accepting of it or open minded. You ever see a real fucking pedo in real life, maybe know one? Yeah count your stars you never had one who hid among family friends they’re fucking gross ass snakes and anybody who feels attraction to a child (and acts on it) deserves death or serious medical help. Being attracted to “Loli’s” is bearable but still abhorrent in my eyes, you don’t deserve to die over jerking off to a drawing of a little girl but you do need help... and need a beating if it’s real life. Count your stars you don’t know one and to those who do I’m sorry, I ain’t even trying to be a snowflake but I can’t stand pedophiles I hate them with a burning passion.
 

LordJoyde

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In order to understand why lolicons are mostly condemned, you need to understand how the concept of debauchery works. Once you make something that was considered outlandish or wrong beforehand into a 'normal' thing, you make those who desire this abnormal thing very happy and content, but as it is with any other group or society, there will always be people who take it to the extreme.

In this case, lolicons are the 'normals' in the exact same group where the 'pedophiles' can be considered the extremes. You legalize and allow their fetish in the virtual world, which will allow more people to understand and grow accustomed to it, giving the actual pedophiles more allies as time goes on.

This will inevitably escalate into having the pedo's actively question people as to why exactly their desires are condemned, when lolicons are not, pushing forward a newer policy of 'compromise', likely something along the lines of 'rape is bad but if the child is willing, why not?'. You'd quickly start to notice the trend of debauchery moving forward, as the pedophiles who don't want to be criminals level up into the new 'normals' and the criminals become the 'extremes', causing people to no longer condemn them as much and opening up the way for some politician to gain popularity by creating laws to protect 'normal' pedophilia.

This is pretty much an inevitable thing as technology moves forward and new ways to exploit ones sexuality are discovered by humanity, alongside so many other things that we now consider horrifying. Lets say, virtual reality, what if someone uses it for a satanic, murder orgy? You'll definitely have people who are into getting murdered during sex, thusly allowing the actual sadists to practice their debaucheries before putting them to practice. Sounds crazy, but its happened a million times before. For now though, I choose to remain part of the regressive, old-timers that would like to keep this future as far away as possible.

TL:DR - Because it would be allowing pedophiles to call out people supporting lolicons in order to normalize their fetish in society, pretty much the same way as lesbianism propped up homosexuality in modern times.
 

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I'm with this guy. My curiosity drawn me here.
 

Motsu

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I'm with this guy. My curiosity drawn me here.
Yeah. I don't want to fucking write an essay-length explaining to condemn or to let free lolicons. If anything, I'd be more willing if anyone can summarize their shit because they can literally paraphrase their essay—oh wait, let me grab my popcorn.
 

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This is a thread I didn't expect today of all days to exist until now, I will have to stand by this statement instead
EVERY POST THAT EVERYONE HAS EVER MADE ON THIS THREAD IS SATIRE. I DO NOT CONDONE NOR SUPPORT ANY OF THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED ON THIS THREAD.

Any post associated with this IP is satire and should be treated as such. At no point has anyone associated with this IP ever condoned, encouraged, committed, or abated acts of promoting lolicons or condemning lolicons against any persons, regardless of racial, ethnic, religious or cultural background.

In case of an investigation by any federal entity or similar, I do not have any involvement with this group or with the people in it, I do not know how I am here, probably added by a third party, I do not support any actions by the member of this group
 

LoliGent

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Oh, wow, this topic. Dang, I just joined this forum and this pops up. I was hoping this topic would not show up until I got adjusted to this place.

Okay, so... Hi. Your friendly neighborhood lolicon here. I guess I'll address this since this topic seems to be popping up alot. I'll have to face it someway.

So first, I will inform everyone that I do not condone the act of any adult perusing any romantic or erotic action with anyone underage. It's not going to happen, at all. Children, teens, they are not capable of handling it. It's not possible. Leave them alone because it's never going to happen. I have to make this clear.

However, I must also inform you that I am attracted to younger people. I won't go into it, I know you don't want to hear it, you're probably already freaked out by it, and what I said on top still applies. I just needed to inform you to give you context.

Now that we got that out of the way, in terms of the fictional space, lolicon drawings, and stuff like that, I'm not against it. I'm sure that's no surprise but I do want you guys to ask yourselves, why does it even exists in the first place? Because there's people like me, that's why, and they seem to get jobs in the anime/manga industry, and there's a large demographic for it. You think what you see in anime is bad? Well, my friend, do not go to pixiv and turn off the adult filter. Trust me, you don't have to look for it in order to stumble upon it.

It's large, the surplus is uncountable. It's everywhere, just not in plain sight. There are so many of us, that we do make a demographic, at least in Japan. I live in America, the home of the free unless you get caught with cartoon porn, I guess.

But I agree with everyone's sentiment that it's nothing but fanservice and smut. It practically is, and I'm getting sick of it myself. The thing is, I don't look at the smut, the hentai, the erotic stuff. I don't want to. What I like is the manga and anime that takes the topic seriously or lighthearted (there's a few lighthearted takes on it). There's this great manga called Kore wa Koi no Hanashi (This is a Love Story), a manga about an author in his mid-30s who starts falling for a 13 year old girl. You probably don't like that premise in itself, but trust me, it's not as bad as you think. It's not smutty, it's actually quite mature in the way it approaches. It may not deal with the situation seriously, but it takes it serious enough. But if romance is not something you like, I also recommend Watashi no Shonen (My Boy). This is shota, actually, but its not romance, it's more psychological as it deals with a female office worker who has feelings for a 12 year old boy, but what those feelings are, she's not even certain. I highly recommend Watashi no Shonen for those who want to examine the concept of adults attracted to young people as it's not offensive at all, even if it looks like it might.

But I guess this isn't lolicon/shota, but more age gap, I guess. Still, considering that the idea behind lolicon is about sexualizing minors, and there's so much of it, we need more of these age gap stories that take the topic seriously. A serious look at what exactly an actual relationship with a minor would be. This is what I want to see more of. I'm done with the typical tropes associated with lolicon and am searching for these kinds of stories, ... except for Wataten! That's the only onne-loli yuri I will ever love.

With that said, if you guys really want to learn more about this topic in an academic way... too bad. The subject is not really talked about, which is a damn shame considering just how much of the material there is, just how much it's talked about, and how ignorant people are about it. Only one source has given me more insight on this topic. Try to look up an excerpt called "The Lolicon Guy: Some observations on researching unpopular topics in Japan" by Patrick W. Galbraith. This guy went around Akihabara, researching lolicon material and gives some good insight about the sub-culture. He also has a more or less neutral tone, though he does encourage the research on it.

Finally, I am planning some stories about the topic that take it seriously. It's a work in progress but I do have ideas. I want to take lolicon and even shotacon and make it to a more serious level of actually looking into the subject matter from a psychological perspective, mainly on the adult. I truly feel we need research on this topic but nobody will dare actually talk about it. I guess it's up to me.

So... yeah... Hi, I'm still new, I'm a lolicon, I don't condone the practice in real life, but I do want to see more serious material about it.

I'm sure this all a shock to you, maybe you have questions about it. I'll be happy to answer anything. I hope I'm not coming in too strong about this, but considering it's becoming more and more of a topic of late and people still don't want to talk about it, I feel now is the time to finally face it head on.
 

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EVERY POST THAT EVERYONE HAS EVER MADE ON THIS THREAD IS SATIRE. I DO NOT CONDONE NOR SUPPORT ANY OF THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED ON THIS THREAD.

Any post associated with this IP is satire and should be treated as such. At no point has anyone associated with this IP ever condoned, encouraged, committed, or abated acts of promoting lolicons or condemning lolicons against any persons, regardless of racial, ethnic, religious or cultural background.

In case of an investigation by any federal entity or similar, I do not have any involvement with this group or with the people in it, I do not know how I am here, probably added by a third party, I do not support any actions by the member of this group

THIS ONE RIGHT HERE YA HES THE ONE
 

DarkGodEM

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AH YES!
LEWD'EM LOLIS!

On a more serious note... Just stop being such snowflakes. I've been with girls that are literally double my age but I'd never hit on fearing going to jail. There are women out there that look like middle-schoolers and there's absolute-fucking-nothing wrong with being attracted to that kind of women either. So long as people exist, it's okay to be sexually attracted to that kind of people. Being a lolicon does NOT make you a sex offender that preys on children (to avoid using the actual word).

Lolicon should only be condemned in the case it glorifies the sexual exploitation or abuse of characters that are legit, word by word, children. In any other case it should not have any problem whatsoever. Just because the character has small tits and is under 5ft tall does not make them children unless the lore and the actual behavior of the character is MEANT to be those of a child.
 
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