On Intelligent/Genius Characters

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Hello everyone. It's been awhile since I've posted a thread. Today, I'm going to be taking a deeper look at the portrayal of intelligent and genius characters because I've noticed something I can't unsee, and it bothers me. I won't be talking about Social IQ in this, though there are plenty of egregious examples of misuse there too.

I'll open it up with what I've seen. A particular kind of character that is being portrayed as being intelligent or geniuses aren't. They're oracles, mystics. Beings with either precognition, remote viewing, or some other clairvoyant ability. Some types of intelligence are better portrayed than others. I have a few theories as to why this happens, but I'll save those for later. You've probably noticed this too. Characters so "smart" that they only ever make the right choice, even with limited information, often by making a negative statement about missing evidence as evidence that said evidence actually should exist.

Not that many people don't write intelligent characters well. Dr.House is a very well written intelligent character. He makes mistakes, he has flaws. If Dr. House was written as a webnovel, modern readers would write comments like, "He obviously should have just diagnosed that from the very start", or "He's obviously not that smart since he can't see his behaviors might put him in jail". Yes. Intelligence is not directly correlated with willpower or social understanding, yet smart characters are frequently demanded to be superhuman in all respects.

So, lets dig into what intelligence or genius is. Broadly, there are three different forms of high-intelligence that you would qualify as such in a real human, and sometimes people have two or more of these traits:

Knowledge: The walking encyclopedia type, or the wise old man. Often considered "Crystalized IQ". This is usually the one that is portrayed correctly. Either someone who can just spout information off the top of their head like google, or someone who has an experience they can share for almost every situation. They usually are mentor or sidekick characters. Dr. Stone is an example of a main character that fits this role, and is portrayed fairly well. He has to rely on others to fill in gaps in his skills or knowledge.

Quick-Wit: They just think faster than those around them. Often called "Street Smarts" or simply "A Quick Wit". They can easily come up with a solution to a puzzle that would take others significantly longer, or perhaps they're able to rig together a makeshift device to get out of a pinch. While less well portrayed than knowledgeable characters, they're still fairly well represented.

Pattern Recognition: Individuals who are very good at recognizing patterns or minor details. This is generally considered "Fluid IQ". This is by far the worst offender of the three types for poorly written characters. It's no real surprise that this is the case when a lot of science has shown that individuals each have an upper limit to this that is almost impossible to exceed. You can underperform your limit, but you can't really improve it once set in stone after your early childhood years are done. It really just boils down to it's name, "Pattern Recognition". There are simple patterns most people recognize. Things like the same car passing your house every day means that the person driving it probably lives along the road that you see it on. Then there are very difficult patterns, esoteric and seemingly unrelated. Think of Isaac Newton connecting the idea of falling objects on earth with the motion of tiny dots moving in the sky. That's a big leap.

Why are two of these well represented, and one isn't? I believe that the issue comes down to, "Can you imagine how such a character would behave?" Knowledge and Quick-Wit are things that people can learn and build on. You've probably stayed up late at night and came up with a quip to respond to a scathing burn you received during the day. A quick witted person would have said it on the spot. You've also probably learned things in your life. Pattern Recognition is almost a taboo to talk about the fact that individuals are cursed with whatever level of it they have (either good or bad). You can imagine down, but you can't imagine up, because if you could, you'd already be that smart.

The solution is to shortcut the situation. You've probably seen how people with high levels of pattern recognition seem to be capable of grabbing the right answer out of what seems to be thin air. They'll give you their reasons, but it's like they're practically manufacturing the reasons to fit the outcome in retrospect. So, to write such a character when you yourself don't match their intelligence, you replicate what you've seen. You manufacture minute causes, and put the outcome in place.

The way we've just decided to write that character is, indeed, precognitively. The author has given them the visions necessary to see the future. The TV show Psych plays with this heavily. To other people in the room, he seems to be someone with psychic powers, but in actuality, he's merely observing details others miss, and fitting the pattern.

The issue with the webnovel space specifically is that there are, well, a lot of people writing "Genius" style characters, and when the gap in skill becomes too large, they're just oracles of fate. They've already seen how everyone else will act. They aren't really Geniuses. They're the author's oracle within the world of the book, here to enact the authors will through divine fiat. Mistakes aren't made, flaws aren't acceptable.

Why isn't that correct, you yourself said that you have to replicate the causes backwards, and it's equivalent to precognition? In short, because smart people aren't machines without flaws. There are some really, really smart drug addicts out there. They know the ins and outs of not getting caught, and can sniff a cop out from a mile away. In fact, people with very high IQ are prone to having many other mental issues, foremost depression, but others too.

I mentioned at the start that Dr. House is a well represented intelligent character. He has all three intelligence traits I mentioned, but still has dozens of character flaws. Psych is similar, plenty of character flaws. Sometimes they learn from them, sometimes they don't. Throughout any episode or arc in a story involving a well written "genius" character, they'll make errors, and new evidence will contradict the theory they held previously. Geniuses make mistakes too. That's the most important part. A very important aspect of characters that have high pattern recognition is a strong sense of "Once Bitten, Twice Shy". They learn from their mistakes quickly, but they still make them! What they learn can be dubious though. Think of Dr.House. Even when convicted and sent to jail, he doesn't learn that he should stop bad behaviors. He merely learns to hide and control it better.


Sure, this is all well and good, but why bring this up at all? I bring this up because, within the webnovel space, there are a lot, almost too many to count, bad genius style characters. It's gotten so bad that a subset of readers have started to see accurately represented intelligence and call them stupid for not being precognitive, having no flaws, or for that matter, not immediately becoming fascist dictator of the world due to their superior intellect.

Perhaps the character is a drug addict, or too pacifist, maybe they're a pushover. Especially in an isekai. A character hopping to a different world, even a genius, needs to learn what to expect from the world. The golden rule for a genius is "Once Bitten, Twice Shy". The next time you go to write a character that is a genius, ask yourself, "Am I writing a genius, or am I writing an oracle?" Geniuses make mistakes and learn from them quickly. Oracles do not make mistakes of importance at all.

Thank you for listening to my TED Rant.
 
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I agree with you but even Dr house is a bit over the top, and inconsistent which is normal because he was written for the sake of drama rather than psychology lessons.
 

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Just write @RepresentingEnvy. That simple

But honestly, I believe everybody is a genius in some way or form they may not have discovered due to lack of education/free time/opportunity/will. Unless they are seriously brain-damaged or are literally an animal and possess no higher cognitive functions.
People can be skilled in many things. They can even be top in their field. Specifically though, when it comes to pattern recognition and what we consider to be geniuses, the science is settled, and it's a very uncomfortable fact of life. Anyone cannot reach the pinnacle. That doesn't have sway on what they can achieve in their life through hard work, but it does limit them in specific areas. Isaac Newton made monumental strides in multiple fields. This is not something that anyone could do if put in his exact shoes from birth. It's a very, very uncomfortable fact to westerners because it goes against an ideal held in the west of humans being blank slates. It doesn't detract from the inherent value of individuals and their ability to do work, but it does limit what they're capable of achieving in life. I'm not here to argue the scientific facts or broaden the definitions to include things like social IQ. When it comes to fluid IQ and the ability to pattern recognize, people are generally stuck with their lot in life.

I agree with you but even Dr house is a bit over the top, and inconsistent which is normal because he was written for the sake of drama rather than psychology lessons.
Very true that House is over the top sometimes and sometimes inconsistent for dramatic purposes. That said, I think if you talk to the average PhD graduate, you'll find that most have some very odd quirks of personality.
 

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I know it usually depends on the audience and all, but I agree with you. Many readers nowadays expect characters to do the same thing they would do, mostly unaware that theyre reading the story and therefore will always know the best way to solve everything within the setting because they know everything, even things beyond the main character's own cognitive abilities.
They literally want oracles. Actual geniuses arent all of this. This mostly steems from the self insert culture that has been created in web novels, consumed as quick reads to satisfy people's most primal escapism fantasies withour having to compromise reading a whole book to get anything. Its like a drug, and hence they expect the drug to always make them happy even if its hurting them.
They usually dont care about the story, or the world, or the characters, they just want the high feeling of imagining themselves as these amazing and perfect idealizations of themselves. And well, authors will write what they want and feed into their addiction, only making it worse.
Honestly its just something we have to live with at the end, there are still people that is different, but yeah. This type of fantasy for web novels is what sells the most, and this applies for both male and female audiences.
 

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I know it usually depends on the audience and all, but I agree with you. Many readers nowadays expect characters to do the same thing they would do, mostly unaware that theyre reading the story and therefore will always know the best way to solve everything within the setting because they know everything, even things beyond the main character's own cognitive abilities.
They literally want oracles. Actual geniuses arent all of this. This mostly steems from the self insert culture that has been created in web novels, consumed as quick reads to satisfy people's most primal escapism fantasies withour having to compromise reading a whole book to get anything. Its like a drug, and hence they expect the drug to always make them happy even if its hurting them.
They usually dont care about the story, or the world, or the characters, they just want the high feeling of imagining themselves as these amazing and perfect idealizations of themselves. And well, authors will write what they want and feed into their addiction, only making it worse.
Honestly its just something we have to live with at the end, there are still people that is different, but yeah. This type of fantasy for web novels is what sells the most, and this applies for both male and female audiences.
This is very well put. It's a bad feedback loop of power fantasy. I alluded to it at the very start, but it causes problems in other character representations as well, where they're not actually what is claimed, whether it's a genius, a socialite, or a "CEO", they're all just oracles of the author, there to represent the author's will.
 

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Genius characters are only as smart as the author. If your genius MC is retarded then I have bad news for you bro. I don't know how to tell you this but...
 

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Genius characters are only as smart as the author. If your genius MC is retarded then I have bad news for you bro. I don't know how to tell you this but...
If a smart character is generally agreed to be well written, and a reader doesn't understand it, I have bad news for them too...
 

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If a smart character is generally agreed to be well written, and a reader doesn't understand it, I have bad news for them too...
Yeah i guess it comes to most readers being very clueless and ignorant in general, so their idea of a "genius" is actually twisted and not real, we could even call it "the stupid genius" who isnt actually one but simply relies on the supernatural meta powers he possess to foresee everything because he exists within a world where his creator wants him to always succeed while thiking he's smart. Other case is when the author makes everyone around the main character an idiot, so he seems smart even though he only does very "common sense" things. Other times the main character themselves may never really call themselves geniuses and know that they rely on outside powers or magical abilities, but to other people that have no idea of this, it seems like they're geniuses, hence the novel might be given that name.
 

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Interesting....Very interesting... Slightly interesting... Wait i thought of this before in my inner monologue when i was standing in the rain...
 

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I mainly stick to 1st person in my stories however I do use 3rd person when I need to explain things with clarity to the reader that I can't do using 1st person
 

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Hello everyone. It's been awhile since I've posted a thread. Today, I'm going to be taking a deeper look at the portrayal of intelligent and genius characters because I've noticed something I can't unsee, and it bothers me. I won't be talking about Social IQ in this, though there are plenty of *aggregious examples of missuse there too.
*Egregious

Not that many people don't write intelligent characters well. Dr.House is a very well written intelligent character. He makes mistakes, he has flaws. If Dr. House was written as a webnovel, modern readers would write comments like, "He obviously should have just diagnosed that from the very start", or "He's obviously not that smart since he can't see his behaviors might put him in jail". Yes. Intelligence is not directly correlated with willpower or social understanding, yet smart characters are frequently demanded to be superhuman in all respects.
Doctor Gregory House was literally based on the "classic" smart jack@$$ of literature, Consulting Detective Sherlock Holmes - even down to a more 'relatable sidekick' with a similar name (Wilson vs. Watson). The whole concept was "Sherlock Holmes, but he solves medical mysteries instead of legal ones" per the series creator.

Probably the most interesting take on this concept was the French TV series "HIP" (currently being remade in the US as High Potential), which has a woman in the Holmes role, and she has family issues and a complex past instead of drug use.

Pattern Recognition: Individuals who are very good at recognizing patterns or minor details. This is generally considered "Fluid IQ". This is by far the worst offender of the three types for poorly written characters. It's no real surprise that this is the case when a lot of science has shown that individuals each have an upper limit to this that is almost impossible to exceed. You can underperform your limit, but you can't really improve it once set in stone after your early childhood years are done. It really just boils down to it's name, "Pattern Recognition". There are simple patterns most people recognize. Things like the same car passing your house every day means that the person driving it probably lives along the road that you see it on. Then there are very difficult patterns, esoteric and seemingly unrelated. Think of Isaac Newton connecting the idea of falling objects on earth with the motion of tiny dots moving in the sky. That's a big leap.
One of the most interesting attempts at this was a series called Unforgettable with Poppy Montgomery as a woman cursed with photographic memory (except of the one event she wants to remember), who uses it to identify patterns everywhere (including to solve crimes) - sadly, it came out at a time when procedurals were glutting the market and having a drop-dead gorgeous red-head as the lead was not enough to make it stand out...
 

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*Egregious
Now fixed, along with some others.

Doctor Gregory House was literally based on the "classic" smart jack@$$ of literature, Consulting Detective Sherlock Holmes - even down to a more 'relatable sidekick' with a similar name (Wilson vs. Watson). The whole concept was "Sherlock Holmes, but he solves medical mysteries instead of legal ones" per the series creator.
Very true. Even down to drug habits. House is a better example to bring up, as most people have a "concept" of Holmes, but haven't actually read any of the original stuff, where as House is still somehow in pop culture today. I'll also draw attention to another parallel that has additional proof as to how difficult a genius character is to write. House MD is episodic. The necessary amount of problem solving to show is self contained as a result, and the character is easier to see as an 'eccentric genius'. The original Sherlock Holmes stories weren't well received. Sherlock Holmes only caught on when short stories began to be published in magazines (again, episodic, rather than longform). When you start trying to write a longform genius, most people have a strong disconnect with their 'vision' of what a genius is compared to what they actually are. Compile all of House MD, and it took him all that time to make a small change to his own character. Genius is generally frustrating to deal with. Geniuses have their obsessions, and want to pursue them.

Probably the most interesting take on this concept was the French TV series "HIP" (currently being remade in the US as High Potential), which has a woman in the Holmes role, and she has family issues and a complex past instead of drug use.

One of the most interesting attempts at this was a series called Unforgettable with Poppy Montgomery as a woman cursed with photographic memory (except of the one event she wants to remember), who uses it to identify patterns everywhere (including to solve crimes) - sadly, it came out at a time when procedurals were glutting the market and having a drop-dead gorgeous red-head as the lead was not enough to make it stand out...
I can't talk to either of these, as I haven't seen them. I think a very good example of what pattern recognition genius looks like in a vacuum are "A Beautiful Mind", and to a lesser extent "The Imitation Game". Geniuses get themselves into trouble, and don't necessarily behave predictably. I haven't seen "Oppenheimer", but I'd imagine it does a good job of pointing out how geniuses often neglect consequences of their own actions when making choices.

Sometimes it might be beneficial to think of geniuses not as flawless players, but players who always make very strong moves. The moves might be wrong, but damned if they don't have impact in some way or another.
 

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One thing I find that helps when writing intelligent characters is to specialize that intelligence into a specific area and avoid a universal genius archetype. Einstein was good in his field of study, but often neglected other areas of his life. While such universal men have existed, (Leonardo DaVinci) extremely few individuals have fallen into this category in all of human history. If you try to write one, you run a much greater risk of your audience perceiving the character and story as a simple power fantasy. Realistically most intelligent people have specified areas of intellect, so if you want to create one while avoiding too much suspension of disbelief you should decide where these specialties lie, and what they might neglect.

To use this threads example. House was a genius doctor, but he was terrible with people and managing his own health.

If you can create these kinds of gaps in your characters, it can be really fun.
 
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If you use third person limited and show everything going on in the head of smart/genius characters, the reader might end up feeling like those people aren't that smart.

Because the inner workings of geniuses is hard to follow, filled with doubts, questions and over-analyis.

Leaps of logic, lots of gut feelings, some perfect recall, and out of the box thinking of practical, simple concepts is usually the hallmark of Intelligence.
 

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I bring this up because, within the webnovel space, there are a lot, almost too many to count, bad genius style characters. It's gotten so bad that a subset of readers have started to see accurately represented intelligence and call them stupid for not being precognitive, having no flaws, or for that matter, not immediately becoming fascist dictator of the world due to their superior intellect.
I see this as people expecting an omniscient, omnipotent character. They expect the character to be able to see what was about to come and deal with it as soon as possible. Added with that thick plot armor, it's as if the event where the character gets involved will have a predetermined result in the end, it's very predictable.

In my honest opinion, it's boring. Deviations of a predetermined result is what makes the character to be more human and not God-like, and their response to the unexpected turn could make them to have a reality check, having themselves to always expect the unexpected, and figuring it out on the go.

All in all, a true genius will always dwell with trials and errors.
 
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