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Paul_Tromba said:
What America has can't even be called capitalism anymore because of how it's run and managed.
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Dang...that is more than fucked up. 😢

Back here, employers are required by law to pay their employees regular wages (and some with social benefits too), and has set up a wage board to regulate it.
 
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Sabruness said:
this. no such thing as tipping culture in Aus. people might tip some spare change at a bar or cafe on a rare occasion but that's about it in my experience. because we pay a decent, and legally enforced, minimum wage compared to America.
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Decent living wage… legally enforced.

California has a minimum wage of 15 US dollars which is higher than the Australian minimum wage and they’re complaining it’s not a decent living wage.

It’s cheaper to live in Australia than it is in California.
 
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Decent living wage… legally enforced.

California has a minimum wage of 15 US dollars which is higher than the Australian minimum wage and they’re complaining it’s not a decent living wage.

It’s cheaper to live in Australia than it is in California.
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Ah yes, the inflation stuff. 😢

That kind of made me wondering, Philippine minimum wages are also hilariously low, and some are even paid way below the legal minimum wage...

...yet the culture of forced tipping in our society is out of the question. 🤔
 
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Hans.Trondheim said:
Ah yes, the inflation stuff. 😢

That kind of made me wondering, Philippine minimum wages are also hilariously low, and some are even paid way below the legal minimum wage...
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It’s not an issue of minimum wage, it’s an issue of how everything is currently balanced after the government made rules.

America is a difficult system of corporate socialism where all rules are the government (namely the more socialist party) trying to give big companies more market share by making it more and more difficult to start and maintain your own business.


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Well, I'm no expert in US economy stuff, but damn, reading you guys' replies and reactions to this thread is making me think that dining in the US is a horror story.
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It’s actually not. There are pros and cons to it. Tipping isn’t mandatory. You can choose not to tip.

I dine out all the time, but I have money.
 
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It’s not an issue of minimum wage, it’s an issue of how everything is currently balanced after the government made rules.

America is a difficult system of corporate socialism where all rules are the government (namely the more socialist party) trying to give big companies more market share by making it more and more difficult to start and maintain your own business.
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Ah thanks for the info. So US policies heavily favor corporations than SMEs?

That kinda sucks. As an SME business owner myself, I knew the frustration of trying to get a break and grow your business even further.

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It’s actually not. There are pros and cons to it. Tipping isn’t mandatory. You can choose not to tip.

I dine out all the time, but I have money.
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Though some would fight you for it. Or give you the worst possible service next time you visit?
 
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Anon2023 said:
That’s why you don’t return to places you don’t tip. If you’re a tourist, it’s the perfect time to practice this.

Pay and get out ASAP before anyone noticed.
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Well true.

Though there are cases when a regular (like my aunt living in the US) would come back, only to learn that she has been a target of hate by the resto crew because she won't tip. (The crew is mostly new, or so she says.)
 
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Hans.Trondheim said:
Well true.

Though there are cases when a regular (like my aunt living in the US) would come back, only to learn that she has been a target of hate by the resto crew because she won't tip. (The crew is mostly new, or so she says.)
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That’s tipping culture. Service people expect tips, to assume they don’t expect it would be wrong.

however keep these rules in mind.

If you pick it up yourself and no one waits on you, do not tip. If you you order and pay before food is eaten, do not tip. You could not evaluate the service or food ahead of time.

Tipping is only expected on delivery to your home or if they wait on you at a table.
 
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Hans.Trondheim said:
Ah thanks for the info. So US policies heavily favor corporations than SMEs?

That kinda sucks. As an SME business owner myself, I knew the frustration of trying to get a break and grow your business even further.
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Here in the US, we have this thing called "Trickle Down Economics" or "Reagonomics." Essentially the idea is if the government gives as many benefits as possible to the wealthier class and 1%, then it'll eventually lead to where it benefits everyone as a whole.

However, what the dumbasses in the government failed to realize(sorry did I say fail. I meant to say they knew the entire time) is that by giving so much to the 1%, they'll do everything in their power to keep as much of those benefits as possible while giving as little as possible. And since they're wealthy, the lower class can't do anything about it. It's why big businesses pretty much rule the government here.
 
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