Writing [Tutorial] Writing the LOVE scene vs. the Sex scene.

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Writing the LOVE scene
verses the Sex scene.

~ For step-by-step instructions see: Making ROMANCE ~​

-----Original Message-----
“…How exactly I would go about writing a 'romantic/love' scene?”
-- Curious about Loving

I believe what you’re actually asking is the same question asked by everyone in the entire world:
“How can you tell when you are loved?”
First of all, don’t confuse Romance with Love. They are two completely different things!​

DISCLAIMER: This is Advice, and only advice. If you choose to use this technique, or just bits and pieces from here or there; Great! If not, that's fine too. Feel free to fold, spindle, or mutilate as you see fit. It is only advice.


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From Braham Stoker's Dracula

Love vs. Romance
There IS a difference


Romance
– a manipulation technique designed to make someone receptive to Sex.
The source of Romance is LUST.

Love – when someone’s happiness means more than your own.
The source of Love is AFFECTION.​

To many people, Romance means ‘showing love’. That’s not true. You show love by Protecting the ones you care for with the intent to ensure their lasting happiness. That doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re nice to them.


"How do you write a LOVE scene
-- as opposed to a SEX scene?"

Exactly the same way. The real difference is the MOTIVE.
  • Lust’s motive is ORGASM.
  • Love’s motive is AFFECTION.

"How do you SHOW the difference?"

It’s easier than you think, because you probably already do it regularly without realizing it.

Think in terms of your Pet...

When you want to show how much you care, you stroke them, cuddle them, and play with them. You also feed them, clean up their poop, and make sure they have vet check-ups. You do all of these things to keep them happy and healthy. You do these things to keep them from suffering in any way.

You do the SAME THING with people you love whether they are your parents, your friends, or your children – you hug them, play with them, joke around with them, make sure they’ve eaten, make sure their colds are taken care of, you make sure they are not suffering in any way –- physically or emotionally. You also bitch them out when they’ve done something that could harm them or result in misery.

The difference between these people and a Lover, is that when you are showing that you care for a lover, you use sex to bring them the greatest physical pleasure you can.

Sex is just another form of PETTING.

LUST is a whole other bowl of kimchee.

LUST is a physical urge, like eating when you’re hungry, seeking warmth when cold, or needing to pee. It is an urge that seeks relief just like all your other physical urges.

If the urgency is great enough, LUST will attempt every dirty trick in the book to get their hands on their object of choice to gain some relief. If that particular object gives them exceptional pleasure, whether it be a dildo, a rubber doll, a super soft sock, or a person, they’ll make sure that the toy is cared for, and in some cases, jealously guarded – so that the toy will still be there (and receptive) when they want to use it again.

The key word here is USE.
  • Lust USES others for selfish physical gratification.
  • Love doesn’t use, it GIVES.
Love gives affection to make the one loved happy.
-- If something should happen to cause hurt to the one loved, the one who cares is devastated by their FAILURE stop suffering from happening.

Lust takes affection to make themselves happy.
-- Toys have PHYSICAL value, not Emotional value. If their toy should break or refuse to be used, they will be FRUSTRATED and ANGRY, but they won’t think they failed. They’ll think the TOY Failed -- and just go out and get another toy.


"What's the real difference between
a Love scene and a Lust scene?"


Very simply:

Lust Takes pleasure.
Love Gives it.



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Art by Amano Kojima

Jealousy is NOT a sign of LOVE.

Jealousy a sign of possession, of ownership; of FEAR that their object will be taken from them and no longer theirs to USE; of Obsession and ADDICTION.

Jealousy is a point-blank sign of someone concerned with their own happiness, Not their Beloved's. "I won't let you make me unhappy!"

When the Beloved's happiness comes SECOND to the lover's happiness, "If you love me, you'd do this to make me happy..." What they are expressing is OWNERSHIP.

When one is IN LOVE, and their lover sleeps with someone else, they do Not feel jealousy, they feel FAILURE, and point the blame squarely on themselves. “I wasn’t enough to make my beloved happy in bed. What did I do wrong?” If their feelings are strong enough, they may ALLOW their lover to keep their other lover --and give up on them entirely-- simply because it's what makes their beloved happy.

When someone is merely in LUST, they will ISOLATE the object of their desires; from friends, co-workers, family, and even pets. They will use every trick they know, such as; Stalking and Spying, to keep rivals (read: THIEVES) from taking what they have claimed as theirs, even if it's merely their object of Lust's attention.

Should the object of their Lust sleep with someone else, they will attack the one attempting to steal their possession. "How dare you touch what is MINE?!"

Then they will attack their 'supposedly' Beloved. "How dare you let someone else have you?! You belong to ME!" Punishment --with the intent to cause Emotional damage-- swiftly follows, such as; breaking something important to their Lust object, a brutal and bloody beating, or flat-out rape.

If their Lust Object doesn't leave at that point, the jealous owner will then enforce stricter forms of ISOLATION on their Lust Object; up to and including Imprisonment, to 'protect' them from Escape and/or Theft.

Why do some married women allow their husbands to have a mistress?

Because they LOVE their husbands and want them to be happy. If having a toy makes them happy, they’ll even arrange to get a good quality toy for him.​
Note: This happens far more often than you might realize. I have several very good friends who were personally invited to be a paid mistress by the wife of a corporate husband.​
Why do married men ALWAYS return to their wives?​
-- Because they LOVE their wives. Anyone else is just an object to relieve their physical urges -- rather like a dildo.​

Think on that while you write your love scene. I swear the difference will show through.



-----Original Message-----​
"I'm not sure I agree with the last bit about mistresses, but that's mostly because I find myself unable to justify anyone 'in love' ever cheating on their loved one - again, because it's hurtful and selfish, and a way of making yourself feel good, even as it hurts your spouse."
-- Not Fond of Cheaters

That bit about Mistresses was merely a point to show that someone who is in love will allow their loved one damned near anything, even if it hurts them -- not an endorsement.

Love can be a real bitch.

Once you love someone, no matter what they do to you, you can't stop loving them. You can only endure it as long as you can, until either they straighten up, or they drive you away.

I learned my lessons through cold hard experience.

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Loveless
-----Original Message-----​
"Wow, I always thought Romance was about Love...?"
-- Prefers Romance

EVERYONE thinks Romance is about love -- because we really, really WANT it to be.

Romance tells us that the Other Person gives up everything for Us, when in fact, the opposite is true. Real Love makes us give up everything for THEM.

When you think about it, Love is a very scary emotion. It makes us give up everything we want, everything we are -- for someone else. If they are not worthy of such a sacrifice, it doesn't matter because we LOVE them and want them to be happy at any cost.


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Real Love comes in many different shapes and colors.

A love that looks destructive from the outside, such as Bondage and Domination, could in fact be perfectly supportive and exactly what both lovers need from each other. A good movie that illustrates this perfectly is "Secretary".

On the other hand, what an outsider may think is positive and supportive might in fact not be love at all. Case in point, stalking was once thought of as being an expression of love. Angry possessiveness can look an awful lot like love when in fact it is a terror tactic designed to isolate the one supposedly beloved.

When a lover asks their beloved to choose between them and anything else, a friend, a pet, or even a hobby, they not interested in their significant other's happiness. They are ensuring that their toy has no outside distractions and is available for their convenience. A good movie that illustrates this is "Sleeping with the Enemy".

A lover that yells at their beloved for their destructive habits, such as over-spending, drugs, booze, gambling...is more likely to be showing real love, than a lover that sweetly begs their beloved to drop their plans for going out with their friends for a romantic dinner date with them.

How do you tell the difference?
-- Measure each action by this question: "WHO benefits from the Results?"

I am firmly of the opinion, that if one is going to write about Love, one should really know what it is -- and what it isn't.

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You know, those tutorials, those guides you wrote are nice and fun, but another question pops up in mind when you read them. I don't remember if I asked this question already. If I did, excuse me. Here I go, how to apply this knowledge? I think it's a great theme for another guide\tutorial. "How to use your knowledge." Btw, if your answer is through experience, I won't accept it.
 

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You know, those tutorials, those guides you wrote are nice and fun, but another question pops up in mind when you read them. I don't remember if I asked this question already. If I did, excuse me. Here I go, how to apply this knowledge? I think it's a great theme for another guide\tutorial. "How to use your knowledge." Btw, if your answer is through experience, I won't accept it.
I'm not sure what you're asking for here.

Are you asking for Instructions on how to apply the tutorials?
-- If you are, most of my tutorials Do include step-by-step instructions.

Or are you asking me to post instructions on how a writer should use what they already know?
 

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I'm not sure what you're asking for here.

Are you asking for Instructions on how to apply the tutorials?
-- If you are, most of my tutorials Do include step-by-step instructions.

Or are you asking me to post instructions on how a writer should use what they already know?
A combination of two.
 

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I think this is by far the most opinionated thread you've made.
I'm testing the waters, so to speak...
-- If this doesn't blow up in my face, I'll add a few more 'opinion' pieces.

On pets:
-- I have three younger brothers. To deal with them I followed the instructions from a Puppy Training manual. They adore me to this day, and are very obedient.
 
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If their feelings are strong enough, they may ALLOW their lover to keep their other lover --and give up on them entirely-- simply because it's what makes their beloved happy.​

“Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own.”​

― Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land

I don't agree with the "and give up on them entirely" part of your statement, and you yourself go on to say that some wives allow their husbands to have mistresses without giving up their husband. This is the core of ethical non-monogamy, except that we females also get to have lovers.

Yesterday I learned that one of my boyfriends is having a baby with his primary girlfriend. I got all excited and started sending lots of articles and Youtube videos I found helpful for my own baby. I told my husband, and he said congratulations. I'm hoping our kids get to be playmates someday, after they both get all their shots, or course.
 

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“Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own.”​

― Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land

I don't agree with the "and give up on them entirely" part of your statement, and you yourself go on to say that some wives allow their husbands to have mistresses without giving up their husband. This is the core of ethical non-monogamy, except that we females also get to have lovers.

I did indeed say that some wives allow their husbands to have mistresses.

However, when one of the only two men I ever actually fell in love with decided to impregnate a girl I did not trust -- while I was still living with him, I chose to leave rather than get in the way of his plans for a happy family. You see, he wanted that baby with all his heart.

He also tried to gaslight me on the regular, but I was willing to put up with that because he wasn't anywhere near smart enough to do it successfully.

Yesterday I learned that one of my boyfriends is having a baby with his primary girlfriend. I got all excited and started sending lots of articles and Youtube videos I found helpful for my own baby. I told my husband, and he said congratulations. I'm hoping our kids get to be playmates someday, after they both get all their shots, or course.
Congratulations!
 

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I'm generally against this, but I can't be bothered to rage about it.
Against 'this'?
-- Do you mean opinion essays, or you disagree with what I wrote?

You're allowed to disagree you know. I'd just rather not have a thread full of screaming.
 

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Against 'this'?
-- Do you mean opinion essays, or you disagree with what I wrote?

You're allowed to disagree you know. I'd just rather not have a thread full of screaming.
I'm sure he means testing the water part. You should post your most controversial post first. Once the dust settles, everything after would seem mild in comparison.
 

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I'm sure he means testing the water part. You should post your most controversial post first. Once the dust settles, everything after would seem mild in comparison.
ROFLMAO!
-- I did post my most controversial essay! Proper Paragraphing has never failed to draw out the rage posts.

The only other pair of tutorials that got even close to that much screaming was one about writing Yaoi characters without feminizing them, and on writing females characters. The one on writing females pissed off the femi-nazis like you wouldn't believe!

Apparently, no one wants to believe that men and women think differently.
-- "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus,"
 

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Against 'this'?
-- Do you mean opinion essays, or you disagree with what I wrote?

You're allowed to disagree you know. I'd just rather not have a thread full of screaming.
Opinion essays.

This is naught but personal grievance since you do seem to have a good overview of writing topics and wrapping it in (controversial) opinion would decrease reach.
But I'm not paying you to do this, so choose as you will.

As for the "allowed to have my own opinion". No hidden meanings in my original post. I'm genuinely too lazy to write something to that effect.
Apparently, no one wants to believe that men and women think differently.
-- "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus,"
You very much sound like a friend of mine.
 
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ROFLMAO!
-- I did post my most controversial essay! Proper Paragraphing has never failed to draw out the rage posts.

The only other pair of tutorials that got even close to that much screaming was one about writing Yaoi characters without feminizing them, and on writing females characters. The one on writing females pissed off the femi-nazis like you wouldn't believe!

Apparently, no one wants to believe that men and women think differently.
-- "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus,"
As far as I know yaoi/BL is emasculated men holding hands and doing cute things. But I wouldn't know for sure, I don't read the genre. Otherwise, I'm really interested in the one about female characters.
 

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Opinion essays.

This is naught but personal grievance since you do seem to have a good overview of writing topics and wrapping it in (controversial) opinion would decrease reach.
But I'm not paying you to do this, so choose as you will.
Ah! Thank you for the clarification.
-- I prefer to post useful advice, though I will throw in my opinion every now and again. For example, I truly do loathe the use of 'said' and have no shame in mentioning it -- frequently.

Overall however, I prefer posting techniques people can actually apply to their own work, if they feel like it -- techniques I've used in my own work. In fact, I became a fan-fiction writer specifically to audience-test my experiments before I try to use them in my professional work.

If I don't know something, I'll state that I don't know it. It's far too easy to expose when someone is ignorant about something.
 

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Overall however, I prefer posting techniques people can actually apply to their own work, if they feel like it -- techniques I've used in my own work. In fact, I became a fan-fiction writer specifically to audience-test my experiments before I try to use them in my professional work.
I mean I'm not exactly a good example of the application of this technique either, but you could append your own takes on the entire topic at the end and keep the rest as objective as possible.
 

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As far as I know yaoi/BL is emasculated men holding hands and doing cute things. But I wouldn't know for sure, I don't read the genre.
It's not at all -- when done right.
-- I won't read BL with guys holding hands and being 'cute,' even though I personally know more than my share of gay men who actually are that way.

Otherwise, I'm really interested in the one about female characters.
LOL! I'm sure you are, but I won't post it here. I know better.
 
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