What Do You Dislike About Isekai-Reincarnation Stories?

[KAbhinavV]

Just that!
Speak away and shower this thread with all the hate you have for the genre.
I'll use it as feedback for my work.

My Book: https://www.scribblehub.com/series/1402616/born-to-magic/

 

[Daydreamers]

what I hate, most people like
Harem, Op MC , etc
like you get a very diverse and large world, different races and everything, magic and stuff, millions of characters , and it ends up being so irrelevant
just oh how fluffy this cat person is , ooh yumi delicious food, ohh big booba girl likes me , oh loli likes mee too ,and what's worse and ironic is some authors turn this passive mc into an edgy one who kills everyone and everyone is bad except him, and then they fall for the same mistake : too op. that kills the purpose of the story it makes you lose any interest even around fights, that is if you were psycho enough to feel connected with the mc to begin with
the prb is this isn't helpful to you at all , every trope is a trope for a reason , it has an audience

 

[l8rose]

The two things I hate is a well developed back story and then transmigrator never telling their significant other.

First one because now I really want to know about the previous life. "The Yandere Comes at Night" had this fantastic back story of a set of twins. One ends up dying (her parents basically forced her to give up her heart) and then her brother decides he's going to murder everyone responsible for his twin's death. Then we have a monk who sends her soul to a terrible reincarnation because he didn't believe his superiors should have to sacrifice their cultivation for her. Aaaand that is all we get. It probably would have been more interesting than the actual story.

The other bugs me because the MC almost always acts like a new "version" but rarely ever tells the supposedly important people in their life. On the flip side is that this can also mean the important people are too stupid to realize the sould has been swapped.

 

[anonjohn20]

When the trope is ignored after a short while. Lots of isekais could have just used a standard person from within the universe rather than bringing in someone from a different one and having it never be relevant.

 

[Envylope]

I dislike when the person being isekaid is a corporate drone. They get reincarnated and say they are going to live a slow life this time, but then they end up being a pushover to everyone permanently. It's fine if it starts like that, but they need to grow out of it during the story.

 

[Valmond]

When the trope is ignored after a short while. Lots of isekais could have just used a standard person from within the universe rather than bringing in someone from a different one and having it never be relevant.

At that point, you’re better off writing a regular Portal Fantasy. Isekai is pretty much just a tool to start, rather than exploring it beyond the starting tool.

While Portal Fantasy, which is the western term for Isekai. Takes advantage of the concept to truly expand and bring to life the many worlds that could exist.

 

[anonjohn20]

At that point, you’re better off writing a regular Portal Fantasy. Isekai is pretty much just a tool to start, rather than exploring it beyond the starting tool.

I believe we've had this convo before, but if the transported person's knowledge and experience are useless for the plot, then it shouldn't be Isekai.

Good isekai: Parallel World Pharmacy

Bad isekai: The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic

Awful isekai: Redo of Healer

Both stories at the top had the same overall premise: fantasy dude wants to heal people; the bottom one is just a revenge porn parody of the two on top. Only one of those three stories takes advantage of the tropes within the genre.

 

[Valmond]

I believe we've had this convo before, but if the transported person's knowledge and experience are useless for the plot, then it shouldn't be Isekai.

Good isekai: Parallel World Pharmacy

Bad isekai: The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic

Awful isekai: Redo of Healer

Both stories at the top had the same overall premise: fantasy dude wants to heal people; the bottom one is just a revenge porn parody of the two on top. Only one of those three stories takes advantage of the tropes within the genre.

I think for the last one, it should have been expected. The two tags are gore and sexual violence. Gore on its own, maybe not. Put the two together, and I think the idea is set.

 

[anonjohn20]

I think for the last one, it should have been expected. The two tags are gore and sexual violence. Gore on its own, maybe not. Put the two together, and I think the idea is set.

Don't move the goalpost to "it has gore so of course it was going to be bad." My point was that in the bad and awful story, their otherworldly knowledge is never relevant to the plot, so you could have just used any normal person from that world without that knowledge and experience and made the same story. Therefore, the Isekai trope is wasted on those stories.

 

[Valmond]

Don't move the goalpost to "it has gore so of course it was going to be bad." My point was that in the bad and awful story, their otherworldly knowledge is never relevant to the plot, so you could have just used any normal person from that world without that knowledge and experience and made the same story. Therefore, the Isekai trope is wasted on those stories.

Yeah, that’s true.

 

[RedMuffin]

 

[Elmir_Arch-Ham_of_Omega]

the unskippable 10-page adventurer's manual whenever the MC tries to join a guild.

 

[Clo]

When the trope is ignored after a short while.

Yeah, I agree. Often the Isekai is just the inciting element, and then you get a classic Hero's Journey.

I want a story about being Isekai'd.

Not what happens after. I mean, I watch them, and they're fun.

But they're fantasy epics with a fish-out-of-water protagonist. Been there, seen that.

 

[Thraben]

'Here's my isekai world! It totally isn't like the real world at all you guys, anyways here's a generic vaguely medieval society that also has magic! What do you mean 90% of the population having reliable, lethal offense on demand would change the way the fundamental way laws are written? What're you talking about, they totally have like, a modern day justice system that's just slightly quirky, haha! What, no, of course they still have rigid social hierarchies of classes divided by birth and wealth, I can't think of a single reason why almost everyone having access to-'

I'm done with the bit. You get it. Terminal lack of creativity.

 

[KAbhinavV]

'Here's my isekai world! It totally isn't like the real world at all you guys, anyways here's a generic vaguely medieval society that also has magic! What do you mean 90% of the population having reliable, lethal offense on demand would change the way the fundamental way laws are written? What're you talking about, they totally have like, a modern day justice system that's just slightly quirky, haha! What, no, of course they still have rigid social hierarchies of classes divided by birth and wealth, I can't think of a single reason why almost everyone having access to-'

I'm done with the bit. You get it. Terminal lack of creativity.

Oh shit, I gotta rewrite my story before you read it then.

 

[HiroXV]

Hohohoho this thread is perfect for me.

When I initially began to write “Reincarnated in the hero's harem” the reason I had conceived such an idea was simple: my hatred of harems, my deep, deep hatred of harems.

I hate harems, I hate them so much. They're unrealistic, they're unnecessary to a story, they're often disgusting, and their historical counterparts are equally chock-full of disgust, perversion, and violence. Harems (often harems of women, “reverse harems” are nowhere near as popular as regular harems, and popular stories with that trope usually present themselves as satire) not only take away the soul of a character, reducing them to a simple decoration devoted to some fanservice scenes, but either they leave the reader wondering how the most generic man in the story managed to end up with a group of several attractive women or worse it is used as a way to reinforce the "cool factor" of the mc.

I hate that trope so much that I wanted to try to fix it out of frustration.

 

[Macha]

That the isekai/reincarnation in most stories are only mentioned in one chapter and then forgotten after. Like, you can remove it from the story and absolutely nothing changed.

 

[HiroXV]

Ur story is also boring -_-

You know, it doesn't help anyone to be mean, especially you. Just know I wont be checking your story anywhere soon just for the fact that you decided this was gonna be the first message you post on this forum.

 

[anonjohn20]

You know, it doesn't help anyone to be mean, especially you. Just know I wont be checking your story anywhere soon just for the fact that you decided this was gonna be the first message you post on this forum.

He deleted his message. lol

 

[HiroXV]

He deleted his message. lol

I reported them so maybe this was the reason. I also don't understand why someone would just say something like that for no reason at all.