Uh yes it does. Fiction has no limitations. Fiction means "not real". So technically, ANYTHING goes. Try not to rewrite something to fit your own opinion.Fiction doesn't excuse idiocy and fiction doesn't mean a license to turn off logic.
Technically, everything is fiction. You can write garbage and called it fiction, and nothing would change. It's still garbage writing and no one is going to love reading it, at least not anyone normal.
Fiction derives from the Latin "fingere" which always carried the meaning of "forming", "modelling", "creating". Fiction is primarily thus what is created by the author and not what is "not real". If your fiction suffers then from a lack of coherence and you excuse bullshitting with "fiction", then I will call you out for lazy world building and uncreative surrealism.
I'm right my friend merriam Webster justifies me. No one cares what its Latin roots are. Most cuss words are french but no one is calling out their french origins. Most English originated from greek roots with a little mixture of German from saxon origins no one is calling it greek and German. I'm halfIrish, half Cherokee but I couldn't just walk into Ireland and demand to be acknowledged as a citizen just because my dad's dad was one. I can't demand cerification at a reservation in America just because my mother was registered. Fiction is not real, whether its poorly written or not, it means not real. Stop trying to change that.You are wrong, my friend.
And, no technically, everything is not fiction. Unless of course you're saying me and you aren't real. Then yeah sure everything is fiction. I'm guessing education isn't real. That television or phone you use isn't real. Computers are mystical artifacts from a forgotten realm. Pretty sure the world wars didn't really happen. Good series though. A must read.
Moving goalpost? I see.
Only because the majority doesn't know anything about the concepts of connotation and technical terminology, it doesn't mean that both doesn't exist. For example, the simple word "action" can mean something completely different depending on whether you are talking with a normal person or a lawyer. The same is true for incompetence, ignorance, etc. etc.
That is just the ignorance of people without a classical or literary education.
So, if you are talking about fiction in literary terms, then fiction has little to do with being "fictious".
"Most English originated from greek roots" An interesting claim, do you even know Greek? Or rather, can you even distinguish between Greek and Latin?
How can you discuss literature without even knowing the necessary scientific definitions? How can you discuss Wagner without knowing what a leitmotiv is? How can you discuss a Verdi without knowing what a libretto is? How can you discuss Brecht without knowing about epic theater? How can you discuss a Shakespeare without knowing the Aristotelian unities? How can you discuss poetry without knowing what an elegiac couplet or a caesura is?
You make yourself sound like an arrogant prick. How can you talk about fiction without knowing any of that? Really? Pretty sure it happens on this forum and every other writing site in existence. Pretty sure most have no idea what a good portion of that is unless they look it up and it still has no direct relation to here and now. Pretty sure you don't mention Shakespeare and your supposed knowledge of it before you begin every forum discussion you join do you? Sit down Einstein. Not impressing anyone but your own ego. And on that note enjoy your remaining discussion bud. Make sure you bedazzle everyone else with your massive reserves of knowledge in my absence oh great wise one. I thank you for coming down from the literary heavens to speak with a poor foolish scholar such as myself.You make sound yourself like a fool, don't you realise that?
We are not discussing about the definition of words, but the reason why we considered consistency ( hence realism ) is needed for fiction to be decent ( objectively ). Instead of addressing my claim on the topic, you picked up the least relevant words in my quote and made an entire post about it without addressing even a single point of mine. If that's not moving the goalpost then I don't know what it is.
Personally, what you were saying had only an indirect relevance to what I was discussing with Assurbanipal, but that's a moot point now since its moved beyond that. Fiction STILL does NOTmean reality. But By your example, I did move the goalposts and i apologize for not seeing that. My mistake.
Anyway this is just me giving my uneducated opinion on this matter.
What if the debuff was a curse that made the bearer of it doomed to talk about the definition of fiction? Or just the definition of words?
How dare you change the topic! It says right there in the thread title that...
