Why do Filipinos have this weird sense of pride?

[Deleted member 42060]

I’m a Filipino, and I feel annoyed when I see a Filipino trying to be as weebish as possible, trying to be one of those first-world cool kids. Well, regardless of race, many people are generic, but when you see a Filipino that isn’t generic, Filipinos will likely like that and use that as a source of pride.

I’ll give you a concrete example. Let’s start with entertainment: Trese. “Woah, a Filipino anime?! How cool is that?!” “Finally, an anime that isn’t set in Tokyo but set in Manila!” “Damn, the Philippines is catching up, isn’t it?” It’s good that a third-world country like ours is getting its reputation—that’s a sign of cultural improvement.

And, of course, most Filipinos will use this as a source of pride. But there are other Filipinos who get annoyed by this, like my cousin. He told me: “Eh, just because it’s in the Philippines, doesn’t mean it’s already good. It’s only the ‘uniqueness’ that makes it good since no one has ever made a proper Filipino anime yet.”

And if you’re a Filipino who watches Trash Taste Podcast, you’re likely going to be one of those typical, English-spokening weebs (who usually can’t speak Filipino properly), acting like a first-world citizen, having this “cultured” mindset, having this weird sense of pride. Hypocritically enough, I listen to Trash Taste Podcast, but I don’t act like an English-spokening (I speak English in real life), first-world, cultured weeb. “Weeb” is like almost an antonym for “normie.” (So if you don’t watch anime, then that automatically makes you a “normie”? Not really.)

This topic is obviously related to the whole “Pinoy Pride” thing, and I know many foreigners are annoyed by it. I’ll give you a second example and make it brief. I’m going to use myself as an example: I’ve written a novel set in the Philippines. A Filipino protagonist. I feel proud writing a story that includes Manila, Cavite, Lucena, Tagaytay, Boracay, etc., that no one has ever included in their story (because it’s always Japan, Japan, Japan!). Therefore, I’m annoyed at myself, and I shouldn’t feel self-conceited just because it’s set in the Philippines. “Oh, shit, a Filipino author?! That writes light novels and draws manga?! I feel proud!”

I want to talk more about this, but I’ll stop it here. I know there are a lot of Filipinos on this website, with their waifu and husbando pillows, and I particularly want to hear your opinions. But if you’re one of those Filipinos who get annoyed by my “overawareness,” then feel free not to comment. Foreigners? Come join the fun.​

 

[Amok]

I'd say it's better to have pride than not have it, regardless of how rational its basis. Delusion, yes, but being positively deluded can at times have more proactive results than being realistically jaded.

And don't make the mistake that 'first worlders' are somehow more cultured, they merely have fancier clothes, stricter laws and, yes, generally an overdeveloped sense of pride(thus the appellation 'first worlder'). Fact is, there is always give and take, and I've seen far more smiling faces in poor rural areas than in the hoity-toity bustle of urbania.

If no one takes pride in the first Filipino anime(however shitty it might be), chances are local anime is never going to become a thing and no one is going to be motivated to improve upon that which exists. A start, however lame, is still a start.

 

[rain-090]

What the hell?

Can I have a TLDR simplification please

 

[tounokenja]

Eh? Aren't Filipinos just the Puerto Ricans of the pacific?

 

[MrPasserby]

Well we all have our own likes and dislikes that's something I'm sure of. I know having a pride to someone's contribution just by having the same nationality can be annoying sometime, but that doesn't mean one should stop it. Because first of all, does it hurt anyone? So far, not yet. It's far more worst if no one is even proud about it.

I mean you did something all your life and no one cheered for you. Do you get that feeling? That's why I somehow like this mindset of Filipinos that encourages their fellow Filipino creators to make more of it.

Everything has its own humble beginnings, we shouldn't assume them to be perfect on it's first release. Heck even if you compare the old cartoons before they also made the same terrible mistakes, but through time they changed it for the better good.

As to why they have these sense of pride, I still can't fully understand it myself though there's this researcher who actually discuss about it. Describing the Philippines not as a nation rather an imaginary one because no matter where they go they remain connected, intact, and close to each other no matter what country they move in.

 

[LinXueLian]

Eh... I'm not Filipino myself but I don't really mind anyone - Filipinos or otherwise - being proud of an anime or cultural import making a homage to them, their language or the things they love, really. Disney does this regularly for diaspora in their own way - it's something for someone to feel like something does belong to them. So I suppose having a homemade anime would be lovely, yes!

But I do agree that it isn't a good thing to be overly sensitive and shun criticism, especially if it's something to learn from. There's nothing wrong with being proud of something, but I feel it's not a bad idea to temper it with balance as well. It makes us more wonderful as people too!

All this talk about weebery makes me feel at home. It's nice to be able to be open about weebery imo! I hope all of us will someday be able to get together and enjoy conventions again, bless!

 

[Deleted member 42060]

What the hell?

Can I have a TLDR simplification please​

TL;DR: Trese: “Woah, a Filipino anime?! How cool is that?!” “Finally, an anime that isn’t set in Tokyo but set in Manila!” Pinoy Pride: “Oh, shit, a Filipino author?! That writes light novels and draws manga?! I feel proud!” And Filipinos who listen to Trash Taste Podcast are likely to have a weird sense of pride.​

 

[BigBadBoi]

Weebs in general are cringe. Especially the so called "ironic weebs" that like only flavor of the month anime and buy a shit ton of merch just to display "haha I love anime isn't that quirky and cool I win the internetz now". It's fine to like anime but making that your entire personality makes you cringe. It's fine for Filipinos to have pride in something as long as they don't autistically screech in the internet like a bunch of children. Sadly a lot of them do which is why there are many that hate the so called filipino pride.
Also Trash Taste isn't even that good of a podcast so you deserve to be mocked for listening to it like it's something to be proud about.

 

[killwrites]

I can safely say the Philippines isn't alone...just look at how Singaporeans react to any references to Singapore in anime

 

[Generic.Archdemon]

Why do Filipinos have this weird sense of pride?

You mean humans: "Why do humans have a sense of national/ethnic pride?"

Short answer: empathic association, tribalism, cultural institutionalized traditions

Long answer: Go spend a few years studying anthropology specialising in cultural psychology of civilisation and nationhood.

weird sense of pride

it's not weird it's actually very common just as common as people that are annoyed by it. And humans will find in almost anything pride in anything. E.g every ethnic group on this rock hurling thru space.

I know many foreigners are annoyed by it.

these "foreigners" are driven too by their own national pride that creates such resentment, with underlying emotion that is linked with national identities, self-esteem issues and in extreme cases racism.

By and large, most people are not racist (in this day and age) and don't really care if other ethnicities take pride in their group's actions.

And there are people that are empathic and understand the human need for representation and the need to feel like they matter, these people are usually happy that others have found things they can call their own and have pride in. Regardless of that thing is.

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

I’m a Filipino, and I feel annoyed when I see a Filipino trying to be as weebish as possible, trying to be one of those first-world cool kids. Well, regardless of race, many people are generic, but when you see a Filipino that isn’t generic, Filipinos will likely like that and use that as a source of pride.

I’ll give you a concrete example. Let’s start with entertainment: Trese. “Woah, a Filipino anime?! How cool is that?!” “Finally, an anime that isn’t set in Tokyo but set in Manila!” “Damn, the Philippines is catching up, isn’t it?” It’s good that a third-world country like ours is getting its reputation—that’s a sign of cultural improvement.

And, of course, most Filipinos will use this as a source of pride. But there are other Filipinos who get annoyed by this, like my cousin. He told me: “Eh, just because it’s in the Philippines, doesn’t mean it’s already good. It’s only the ‘uniqueness’ that makes it good since no one has ever made a proper Filipino anime yet.”

And if you’re a Filipino who watches Trash Taste Podcast, you’re likely going to be one of those typical, English-spokening weebs (who usually can’t speak Filipino properly), acting like a first-world citizen, having this “cultured” mindset, having this weird sense of pride. Hypocritically enough, I listen to Trash Taste Podcast, but I don’t act like an English-spokening (I speak English in real life), first-world, cultured weeb. “Weeb” is like almost an antonym for “normie.” (So if you don’t watch anime, then that automatically makes you a “normie”? Not really.)

This topic is obviously related to the whole “Pinoy Pride” thing, and I know many foreigners are annoyed by it. I’ll give you a second example and make it brief. I’m going to use myself as an example: I’ve written a novel set in the Philippines. A Filipino protagonist. I feel proud writing a story that includes Manila, Cavite, Lucena, Tagaytay, Boracay, etc., that no one has ever included in their story (because it’s always Japan, Japan, Japan!). Therefore, I’m annoyed at myself, and I shouldn’t feel self-conceited just because it’s set in the Philippines. “Oh, shit, a Filipino author?! That writes light novels and draws manga?! I feel proud!”

I want to talk more about this, but I’ll stop it here. I know there are a lot of Filipinos on this website, with their waifu and husbando pillows, and I particularly want to hear your opinions. But if you’re one of those Filipinos who get annoyed by my “overawareness,” then feel free not to comment. Foreigners? Come join the fun.​

Pretty sure it’s a statement on their society, more so about much of them seeing themselves as backwards. And being overjoyed with they are represented, nationalism plays a role in this too

 

[bananapink]

C'mon it's better to have something to be proud of than noting at all. Who's going to appreciate the things made from your own if not your brethren, other people from other countries? I doubt it. It's not bad to give a bit of push here and an encouragement here to those who try and as long as they're not shoving it down your throat or grappling you to like what they do it's cool.

(This coming from a person who just watched a documentary about the Chinese 'shamate' fashion style... and maaaan that was a good one.)

 

[CupcakeNinja]

I’m a Filipino, and I feel annoyed when I see a Filipino trying to be as weebish as possible, trying to be one of those first-world cool kids. Well, regardless of race, many people are generic, but when you see a Filipino that isn’t generic, Filipinos will likely like that and use that as a source of pride.

I’ll give you a concrete example. Let’s start with entertainment: Trese. “Woah, a Filipino anime?! How cool is that?!” “Finally, an anime that isn’t set in Tokyo but set in Manila!” “Damn, the Philippines is catching up, isn’t it?” It’s good that a third-world country like ours is getting its reputation—that’s a sign of cultural improvement.

And, of course, most Filipinos will use this as a source of pride. But there are other Filipinos who get annoyed by this, like my cousin. He told me: “Eh, just because it’s in the Philippines, doesn’t mean it’s already good. It’s only the ‘uniqueness’ that makes it good since no one has ever made a proper Filipino anime yet.”

And if you’re a Filipino who watches Trash Taste Podcast, you’re likely going to be one of those typical, English-spokening weebs (who usually can’t speak Filipino properly), acting like a first-world citizen, having this “cultured” mindset, having this weird sense of pride. Hypocritically enough, I listen to Trash Taste Podcast, but I don’t act like an English-spokening (I speak English in real life), first-world, cultured weeb. “Weeb” is like almost an antonym for “normie.” (So if you don’t watch anime, then that automatically makes you a “normie”? Not really.)

This topic is obviously related to the whole “Pinoy Pride” thing, and I know many foreigners are annoyed by it. I’ll give you a second example and make it brief. I’m going to use myself as an example: I’ve written a novel set in the Philippines. A Filipino protagonist. I feel proud writing a story that includes Manila, Cavite, Lucena, Tagaytay, Boracay, etc., that no one has ever included in their story (because it’s always Japan, Japan, Japan!). Therefore, I’m annoyed at myself, and I shouldn’t feel self-conceited just because it’s set in the Philippines. “Oh, shit, a Filipino author?! That writes light novels and draws manga?! I feel proud!”

I want to talk more about this, but I’ll stop it here. I know there are a lot of Filipinos on this website, with their waifu and husbando pillows, and I particularly want to hear your opinions. But if you’re one of those Filipinos who get annoyed by my “overawareness,” then feel free not to comment. Foreigners? Come join the fun.​

you tell you cousin Cupcake said he can fuck off, cuz Trese was great. A but rushed, could've done a second season before they did the whole apocalypse thing, but still great.

as for the other stuff, its not just Filipinos. There's a lotta weebs like that. You even see it in anime, the whole "I'm weeb and I'm proud!" thing where an otaku way too far gone into the culture is all arrogant and prideful of the fact he has all these anime figurines and posters and life sized models of his waifus...dismissing regular people as if THEY'RE the weird ones.

Well, buddy, that's just how it is. People from all walks of life who are too into anime culture are gonna be like that. So I get the annoyance, but don't worry. We all have those kinda weebs who give the rest of us a bad name.

Just tell them to go take a shower and talk to real women and be done with them.

 

[Zirrboy]

The few times I've ever come in contact with the term was in posts complaining about/discussing it, so I don't have any particular feelings about it.

Like most people mentioned, though, that doesn't sound particularly exclusive

 

[Reborn_Cat]

Like many people are saying, the weird sense of pride will always be there for many countries, in my experience a lot of media will always put its country of origin in better light than other, nationalism is pretty prominent everywhere. In India also I had a pretty patriotic principal who was patriotic to the point it was annoying and don't even get me started over some Chinese webnovels and their constant need to show their superiority over other countries. Even Japanese people will have some pride over being Japanese. The only people who I've never heard of being patriotic are the British and that's cause they complain about about every thing, even their own country (the British comment is a joke, don't take it seriously). So don't be too annoyed with patriotic pride cause it's everywhere and most people don't take to really annoying or serious points.

Also Trash Taste isn't even that good of a podcast so you deserve to be mocked for listening to it like it's something to be proud about.

I agree, it's viewers have some of the trashiest tastes I've ever seen

 

[Deleted member 42060]

I say “weird” because there’s a subtleness in this pride that I can’t almost put my finger on. I can feel that subtle pride when I see Filipino Redditors and Discorders (weebish Filipinos love to use Discord for some reason) ranting about their culture, indirectly proving that they’re as “special” as the others. It’s hard to explain since it’s a tiny thing to point out.

Just check out these two Filipino YouTubers, and you’ll know what I’m talking about: PaoLUL and Domics.​

 

[EternalSunset0]

I agree that it's not a Philippine-exclusive problem. It's fine to be proud of your country getting representation. The mere fact that I refer to myself as a foreigner despite practically having grown up in the Philippines (over 20 years here, studied here) is a testament to that.

As for Filipinos being particularly notable or louder about it, my take as a foreigner is because some of the people here have this sense of "bellitlement" if that's the right word and they're so rabid to "prove those evil foreigners wrong" so to speak. They feel so neglected and belittled by the rest of the world (which has a degree of truth to be fair) that they jump at any opportunity to prop themselves up with some "ha! I'm not as good as you but at least I have this to hang my hat on" bit of tribalism.

Heck, you don't even have to look elsewhere but within. Just look at the insane us vs them mentality between the country's regions (Luzon vs Vismin) that stems from a similar issue. Same thing goes with politics (which is more or less as heated as the US'), but we're not supposed to discuss that here.

As for those Trash Taste fans, there does exist a subset of fans who seem to exude an air of superiority because they go for seasonals, watch TT/Mother's Basement/anitubers and carry "curated" tastes instead of watching the "normie" stuff like the Shounen Big Three, Demon Slayer, MHA, SAO, AoT etc.

Probably because social media and online influencers like that have created an avenue or an image for them to show off their "enlightened" states.

I know because I personally know some cliques who give off those vibes.

 

[Motsu]

I dunno-quack.

 

[0niknight0]

Aren't everyone like that. I just you might be better then Chinese in topic like pride and arrogance

 

[CypherTails]

I’m a Filipino, and I feel annoyed when I see a Filipino trying to be as weebish as possible, trying to be one of those first-world cool kids. Well, regardless of race, many people are generic, but when you see a Filipino that isn’t generic, Filipinos will likely like that and use that as a source of pride.

I’ll give you a concrete example. Let’s start with entertainment: Trese. “Woah, a Filipino anime?! How cool is that?!” “Finally, an anime that isn’t set in Tokyo but set in Manila!” “Damn, the Philippines is catching up, isn’t it?” It’s good that a third-world country like ours is getting its reputation—that’s a sign of cultural improvement.

And, of course, most Filipinos will use this as a source of pride. But there are other Filipinos who get annoyed by this, like my cousin. He told me: “Eh, just because it’s in the Philippines, doesn’t mean it’s already good. It’s only the ‘uniqueness’ that makes it good since no one has ever made a proper Filipino anime yet.”

And if you’re a Filipino who watches Trash Taste Podcast, you’re likely going to be one of those typical, English-spokening weebs (who usually can’t speak Filipino properly), acting like a first-world citizen, having this “cultured” mindset, having this weird sense of pride. Hypocritically enough, I listen to Trash Taste Podcast, but I don’t act like an English-spokening (I speak English in real life), first-world, cultured weeb. “Weeb” is like almost an antonym for “normie.” (So if you don’t watch anime, then that automatically makes you a “normie”? Not really.)

This topic is obviously related to the whole “Pinoy Pride” thing, and I know many foreigners are annoyed by it. I’ll give you a second example and make it brief. I’m going to use myself as an example: I’ve written a novel set in the Philippines. A Filipino protagonist. I feel proud writing a story that includes Manila, Cavite, Lucena, Tagaytay, Boracay, etc., that no one has ever included in their story (because it’s always Japan, Japan, Japan!). Therefore, I’m annoyed at myself, and I shouldn’t feel self-conceited just because it’s set in the Philippines. “Oh, shit, a Filipino author?! That writes light novels and draws manga?! I feel proud!”

I want to talk more about this, but I’ll stop it here. I know there are a lot of Filipinos on this website, with their waifu and husbando pillows, and I particularly want to hear your opinions. But if you’re one of those Filipinos who get annoyed by my “overawareness,” then feel free not to comment. Foreigners? Come join the fun.​

I think it's perfectly fine to love and be proud of who you are as a person and culture. Honestly, every culture that exists now was most likely the most successful one that survived in its local environment. Some countries (as in the state and the government) may be arguably better than others but I feel that doesn't apply to cultures.

Also on your point of Pinoy Pride most people are annoyed by "Insert random nation" Pride. Most cultures are xenophobic to a degree, the sense of otherness makes it easier to hate an outside group after all.

I mean if you look at most of the country stereotypes perpetuated by differing cultures, there are a lot of negative things.

So no I don't think this is unique to the Philippines.

Also, believe me as a Chinese, a Chinese weeb is probably just as bad as a Philipino weeb. As for myself as a Singaporean I also feel it's cool when my little nation gets featured. Thus far I can remember three instances of that, so far Singapore has been a smoking ruin of a city in Call of Duty, a pirate lair in Pirates of the Caribbean and a place of the obscenely rich in Crazy Rich Asians (most of us aren't rich here btw ).

So fun times all around I guess...