The Chicken Pen (Feedback Thread)

Sylver

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Oh oh oh me next, oh great, wise, and handsomest chicken with the prettiest feathers! Hear my words and appraisal, it would be an honor if you were to give my story a chance and reward me with your perspective!

Fair warning, it's got a focus on smut content but there's more to it than just sex. Trust me!

 

Sadgeness

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Hello, Sadgeness. The chicks have accepted your feed but they could not eat it to the end. No, it was not too big; there was something wrong with the consistency.

Firstly, for the purpose of this opinion, your story only has one chapter, therefore the only chapter that could have been read, and has been, was that one. As has been said, it was not read to the end, however. Due to a few problems, which shall be discussed later, the chick who was feeding on it was a bit ill:
Chapter 1:​
  1. The length: It's not usual for this chick to tell about this but after some more pondering (reading some more experienced writers and hearing their opinion on the matter) it has decided that it could warrant to alert people on it. Alert, not really tell people not to do it, after all, what you do is up to you. But considering even you have thought you wrote a bit TOO much, imagine that your readers are also going to think the same. Two chapters worth of text are worth more than a single extra-long chapter. Why? Because readers will get the sensation that the plot has advanced twice as much instead. Kind of weird, but there is something in that arbitrary division of numbers 1, 2, 3 and so on that gives them a thrill when they begin binge reading. It's just how humans are wired nowadays. You should also figure it out. Half as many words, 3k is great, something about people's attention spam. You can only keep people's attention for so long. A birds', like this one, however, can endure much more punishment. It is said the normal human loses focus after 15 steps. Quite frightening.
  2. Repetitive words: "Leaving that aside, I have a rather peculiar situation that requires an urgent response. Anyway, here's the context." While they are not the same word, "Leaving that aside" and "Anyway" both have the same feel about them, and this bird will therefore put it under this category FOR NOW. There is another problem here, namely, the repetition of "Anyway" is kind of empty. Why are you anyway-ing? You are not changing topics abruptly, nor there is reason for reticence, as instead, you are getting specific. This is the perfect example of an extra word you would get rid of if you had reread your chapter and done some edition. Great use of the comma, by the way.
  3. Semantics: "There's a game I've been following from its initial announcement until its actual release." So why do you keep talking about the game later with so much passion? You said, "until its actual release". There should have been no more following after it was released. That's how the sentence work. Now this bird is sure of it, did you reread your text?
  4. Incongruent Ideas: "I found out after playing the game for a bit that it was a sh*t game." Now you're contradicting yourself. Even harder than before. Not only it continued after release, your narrator goes in total opposition of what they had just said two paragraphs prior. The game was good enough for that, and now, so shit, it is hot garbage. It's not wrong to say the excitement of a release could make games look better than they look, but the words you have used is what is wrong. You have defined the sentiment of your first-person narrator as something, only to not long later they go totally opposite. Your narrator is as inconsistent as a mentally confused person, incapable of being trusted with telling a logical story.
Conclusion:

Let's get real, shall we? Your text could benefit from the edition. There are a lot of extra words that could be removed from the text, and this was just from a rapid glance. A careful reading of the text has found that your narrator is an unreliable storyteller. How so? They cannot decide if they should be liking a game decisively in a paragraph, and then, almost the next one, they are hating the game with their guts.

The story is told not in the present tense, which would allow for such feelings; after all, if this chick is now feeling in love with your writing, 30 minutes from now it could be very sad it even read it. No, it is writing this story from the future, about things that have already happened, and therefore, it should have some certainty about what has happened in the days of yore. This is what past voice has.

Even a first-person narrator, who is uncertain about everything, since they are only a single individual in the universe, many times they are even a character of the story, know of the events of the past; they know of the things that have happened days before and about their feelings, experiences, emotions regarding events certain. More so if these are so important to the tale. UNLESS YOU ARE WRITING PSYCHOLOGICAL. OR MYSTERY. Then you might have a narrator who is uncertain of their own feelings. The second is much less common, however. It is counterproductive most of the time, but it can happen.

Which begs the question, what are you writing? Why are you using an uncertain narrator? You are not writing psychological. Your story is instead characteristic of bad elements that should have been polished during the edition of your text. And for that, you should go back and edit your text. You should see what your narrator is certain of, and make sure they are not so sure of it in the future. You write with absolute certain, they are sure of things in ways that are not in accordance with the text. Following until the launch, but they go beyond the launch, to play the game, to find it is a massive bore.

This is bad narration. Iron out the inconsistencies. Polish out your narrative. Be sure your text does not say something in the beginning, just later to say it is doing exactly the opposite of it.

You have a story here; you have something to tell, but you do not have a clear, objective way of telling it. You really need to iron it out, and for that, you need an editor to do it. Either find someone who will do it, or do the edition yourself. Authors improve much when they edit the text themselves. But if you find someone to do the edition for you, hear them out.

This bird will not do more than this because it is clear that you are suffering from a poorly, hastily written, first edition version of something you wrote. You will get readers, in fact, you have more than this chick has with its own novel, so do not feel discouraged in your endeavours.

Have a good journey, young writer.
I see. I would like to thank you, your excellency, for the constructive feedback. I will also ensure to thoroughly iron out the inconsistencies you mentioned. It honestly widened my horizon. Once again thanks, and advance happy new years to the chicks!
 

TsumiHokiro

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My Arknights' Fan-Fiction.
I had been stumbling around the forum, looking for insights, and perhaps fix my messy English. That's why I found this thread and I thought of giving it a go...
Hi, Amrasil207. The chicks have checked your novel as you have requested and have decided to return you some feedback.

Firstly, for the purpose of this feedback, chapters 1 and 40 have been read. Not everything that has been noticed, especially in chapter 40, has been highlighted. There were too much of the same thing, and therefore, only a few of them were selected to be addressed in the highlighting section. For an in-depth discussion of what your problem is, refer to the conclusion. To sum it up, both chapters have pretty much the same issue, you have a very inconsistent narrative style, and your grammar really could be improved. As it has been said before, grammar is not the focus of this thread, nor would these chicks take their time to rephrase every weird sentence you have written.
Chapter 1:​
  1. The grammar: "The universe of early 8th millennium is a hardly peaceful time," "5000 years ago." Of the early, "can hardly be/can hardly be considered a". It is not "ago" considering the meaning, it should have been "before". As you have said in your request, you could greatly improve your clarity by improving your grammar. This kind of English is hardly impressive, or rather, leaving good impressions.
  2. Repetitive words/Semantics: "The uncharted cornucopias of uncharted galaxies poisoned the spirit of camaraderie between them." Uncharted twice, there is no plot explanation for why you should be repeating, and what exactly do you mean by great many varieties of not documented of undocumented galaxies? There are different types of galaxies, yet they have yet to be discovered, and these galaxies have yet to be put on a map? So Galaxy types A, B, C are known, but galaxies of type D to Z are not yet, and they also have not been put into the map? Does not make sense.
  3. Story time: "Salvaging what is left but letting the hatred fester all the same." You are talking about the past. Why did you transition to the present? You might have a narrator who is not fixed in the past voice (or at least you might have yet to establish your narrator as it up to the third paragraph) but this is obviously not a passage which could allow for the present tense.
  4. Story time: "A man bellowed," "the children laugh". No, no, no! What are you trying to do? Past? Present? What kind of narrative are you trying to weave? No matter whether the POV has changed, you have yet to establish a proper narrative tense! And these are two examples that should have followed the same rule! Both happen very close to each other, time-space relative speaking, and you chose to use past tense in the first sentence, followed by a long paragraph of present tense; whereas in the following paragraph, the next example, you decide to do it with the present tense! There is no consistency at all!
Chapter 40:​
  1. Story time/Grammar: "One of the passenger ask, she is the Caprinae woman. She prompted conversation with a rather interesting partner, which is none other than the artificial intelligence called C.O.N – R.A.D." "One of the passengers asks," and then, once again, you have yet to decide whether you are narrating in the present tense or in the past tense. Oh, the "called" is correct regardless.
Conclusion:

The long story short: which story tense do you wanna use? The long story: Don't confuse your readers with needless verb tense transition when there does not need to be. Ever since chapter one, you have been indecisive of which one you want to use. In the beginning, this chick was OK, since you were still trying to set up the universe, and there could have been instances where you were trying to say "Well, the past is the past, and the present is the present," and therefore, you might be switching between verb tenses with your narrator. But when it goes on and on like this, without clear rules of when you are going to use which verbal time, that's when it becomes a problem. CLEAR RULES.

It's not wrong to use different verbal times in your narrative. AGAIN. It becomes confusing when you do not define clear parameters for when you are going to use which tense. Everything has to have rules. The language which you use has parameters it follows, even if you might not explicitly be aware of them. Even if your own set might be slightly different from reader A, reader B and Chick T, they still have to have some in common, else there is no communication, only confusion. And the more people you want your writing to be understood by, the more rules your writing has to be in common with others. Else, they are just going to see confusion and mayhem, not really something fun which can be enjoyed.

You already know about your English mistakes. Plenty of them. Verb-noun agreement, adjective order, a few comma cases, strange choice of words (semantics), all in all. This bird will, therefore, not mention them. You should already be aware of what you have to do. Find someone/something that can fix them for you. This creature is only going to say that they are pervasive and sometimes intrusive. On your latest chapter 40, at least, you are doing quite well with your semantic field, and your most common errors were mostly of verb-noun agreement case and the like; therefore, your text did not have much ambiguity. A great improvement, yet, the narrator… it was just as bad.
Have a good day.
 

Amrasil207

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Hi, Amrasil207. The chicks have checked your novel as you have requested and have decided to return you some feedback.

Firstly, for the purpose of this feedback, chapters 1 and 40 have been read. Not everything that has been noticed, especially in chapter 40, has been highlighted. There were too much of the same thing, and therefore, only a few of them were selected to be addressed in the highlighting section. For an in-depth discussion of what your problem is, refer to the conclusion. To sum it up, both chapters have pretty much the same issue, you have a very inconsistent narrative style, and your grammar really could be improved. As it has been said before, grammar is not the focus of this thread, nor would these chicks take their time to rephrase every weird sentence you have written.
Chapter 1:​
  1. The grammar: "The universe of early 8th millennium is a hardly peaceful time," "5000 years ago." Of the early, "can hardly be/can hardly be considered a". It is not "ago" considering the meaning, it should have been "before". As you have said in your request, you could greatly improve your clarity by improving your grammar. This kind of English is hardly impressive, or rather, leaving good impressions.
  2. Repetitive words/Semantics: "The uncharted cornucopias of uncharted galaxies poisoned the spirit of camaraderie between them." Uncharted twice, there is no plot explanation for why you should be repeating, and what exactly do you mean by great many varieties of not documented of undocumented galaxies? There are different types of galaxies, yet they have yet to be discovered, and these galaxies have yet to be put on a map? So Galaxy types A, B, C are known, but galaxies of type D to Z are not yet, and they also have not been put into the map? Does not make sense.
  3. Story time: "Salvaging what is left but letting the hatred fester all the same." You are talking about the past. Why did you transition to the present? You might have a narrator who is not fixed in the past voice (or at least you might have yet to establish your narrator as it up to the third paragraph) but this is obviously not a passage which could allow for the present tense.
  4. Story time: "A man bellowed," "the children laugh". No, no, no! What are you trying to do? Past? Present? What kind of narrative are you trying to weave? No matter whether the POV has changed, you have yet to establish a proper narrative tense! And these are two examples that should have followed the same rule! Both happen very close to each other, time-space relative speaking, and you chose to use past tense in the first sentence, followed by a long paragraph of present tense; whereas in the following paragraph, the next example, you decide to do it with the present tense! There is no consistency at all!
Chapter 40:​
  1. Story time/Grammar: "One of the passenger ask, she is the Caprinae woman. She prompted conversation with a rather interesting partner, which is none other than the artificial intelligence called C.O.N – R.A.D." "One of the passengers asks," and then, once again, you have yet to decide whether you are narrating in the present tense or in the past tense. Oh, the "called" is correct regardless.
Conclusion:

The long story short: which story tense do you wanna use? The long story: Don't confuse your readers with needless verb tense transition when there does not need to be. Ever since chapter one, you have been indecisive of which one you want to use. In the beginning, this chick was OK, since you were still trying to set up the universe, and there could have been instances where you were trying to say "Well, the past is the past, and the present is the present," and therefore, you might be switching between verb tenses with your narrator. But when it goes on and on like this, without clear rules of when you are going to use which verbal time, that's when it becomes a problem. CLEAR RULES.

It's not wrong to use different verbal times in your narrative. AGAIN. It becomes confusing when you do not define clear parameters for when you are going to use which tense. Everything has to have rules. The language which you use has parameters it follows, even if you might not explicitly be aware of them. Even if your own set might be slightly different from reader A, reader B and Chick T, they still have to have some in common, else there is no communication, only confusion. And the more people you want your writing to be understood by, the more rules your writing has to be in common with others. Else, they are just going to see confusion and mayhem, not really something fun which can be enjoyed.

You already know about your English mistakes. Plenty of them. Verb-noun agreement, adjective order, a few comma cases, strange choice of words (semantics), all in all. This bird will, therefore, not mention them. You should already be aware of what you have to do. Find someone/something that can fix them for you. This creature is only going to say that they are pervasive and sometimes intrusive. On your latest chapter 40, at least, you are doing quite well with your semantic field, and your most common errors were mostly of verb-noun agreement case and the like; therefore, your text did not have much ambiguity. A great improvement, yet, the narrator… it was just as bad.
Have a good day.
I see, thank you for your insight. I'm well aware with how much mistakes were made, and the narrator part is indeed a weak link.

I'll start fixing and updating mistakes on previous chapter when I have leeway for it. Thanks again Chick.
 

TsumiHokiro

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Hi, I'm new to Scribble Hub and would like some feedback on my first story:
This story is a novelization of my webcomic of the same name, so some chapters might seem shorter than others since they correspond to the comic episodes.
Greetings, miyaskya. The chicks have accepted your offering of feed, and come back with feedback.

Initially, the chicks have read chapters 1, 10 and 27 of your story in order to produce the following feedback. You do have a consistent writing style, and not much to be nitpicked. If anything, that which is not in your story is what has to be addressed. Namely, plot.
Chapter 1:​
  1. Repeated words: Trade caravan. Why are you not using pronouns or synonyms?
  2. Incongruent Idea: Sand dunes and Horse-drawn carriages. Author of this chick, you have not done your research? In the sand, carts are a terrible way of carrying merchandise. In fact, anywhere you do not have ROADS, using the famous wheel is usually a bad idea. Do you know why? Because the wheel is not flexible. In sand, the wheel has the terrible tendency of sinking; in dunes, animals would be spending so much more effort to try to carry the merchandise in a cart behind them than with the same on top of their backs! Horses can be used in the sand, but do not expect these horses to be the kind used during the heavy cavalry charge famous for breaking infantry lines! They would instead sink, breaking their legs!
Chapter 10:​
  1. Repeated words: Leiyu. You have not mentioned another person who could be a "he", therefore, why are you repeating the name?
  2. Reference confusion: "Where did he go? Leiyu wondered." Who is "he"? This is a reference to a previous chapter, not this chapter. If your reader cannot infer from reading this chapter, because the pronoun is referring to something that does not exist in your current text, it is therefore confusing. A name should be used instead. You can never be sure when your reader is going to stop reading chapters and come back to your story. It might be as soon as they were done with the last one, a month later, or a year. Or never.
Conclusion:

Truth be told, in your latest chapter, although being your largest, was also quite well written. Nothing really required being nitpicked, as most of the things above could be seen as a quest toward what this chick would call excellence and not so much toward readability so much. Yet, for all this excellency and readability talk, your story does lack something sorely: plot advancement.

Twenty-seven chapters of story and there does not seem to have been much advance from where the characters have been. Of course, we could argue that your chapters are not very long, and yet, that should not be an excuse. Your story is almost, and mark the word almost, a slice-of-life, so slow does the plot advance. It is not one because there is no interest whatsoever in simply portraying how the characters are in their daily life, instead there being in how it will change with each other's encounter and possibly how it will play out. The prince is not simply living out a princely life, and the merchant-cum-warrior is not simply living a double one. Their beings mingle, and this consequence is not a slice-of-life novel. At least, not as of the latest 27, which seems to show that such an encounter was predestined, and therefore, the beginning of a journey toward something that will be much more than the author showing the various simple (many times not so) conflicts of their every being.

Therefore, both the way that the story is written, and its length, makes the plot for the most glaring point for this bird's feather to point. There is slow plot development and there is also no plot development. Which one will your story be? Whereas you can write pretty things, without a compelling reason for your readers to follow, why should they read your promise of tags? While this could all be just you complementing your webcomic, as a standalone experience, this is developing oh-so-slow that it does not have much to offer by itself.

And while we are on the topic of multimedia serializations, each media usually complements each other. One has a bit more than the other, delivering different experiences. This is due to each media working best to deliver a type of experience. If you are experimenting with both the visual side of the webcomic and the ideographic side of the novel, you could do well to understand what are the pros and cons of each media before you proceed to a bigger and more meaningful story.
Have a good day, fledging artist. May your experiment bear you good fruits.
 

miyaskya

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Hi, thanks for the feedback!

Greetings, miyaskya. The chicks have accepted your offering of feed, and come back with feedback.

Initially, the chicks have read chapters 1, 10 and 27 of your story in order to produce the following feedback. You do have a consistent writing style, and not much to be nitpicked. If anything, that which is not in your story is what has to be addressed. Namely, plot.
Chapter 1:​
  1. Repeated words: Trade caravan. Why are you not using pronouns or synonyms?
  2. Incongruent Idea: Sand dunes and Horse-drawn carriages. Author of this chick, you have not done your research? In the sand, carts are a terrible way of carrying merchandise. In fact, anywhere you do not have ROADS, using the famous wheel is usually a bad idea. Do you know why? Because the wheel is not flexible. In sand, the wheel has the terrible tendency of sinking; in dunes, animals would be spending so much more effort to try to carry the merchandise in a cart behind them than with the same on top of their backs! Horses can be used in the sand, but do not expect these horses to be the kind used during the heavy cavalry charge famous for breaking infantry lines! They would instead sink, breaking their legs!

I have read that wheeled vehicles were sometimes used on the Silk Road trade routes, mainly for transporting heavier items and luxury goods (in Chapter 8, Leiyu mentioned that the caravan was transporting silk and porcelain) and that both horses and camels were used in caravans, so the idea of horse-drawn carriages is not completely inaccurate.

Chapter 10:​
  1. Repeated words: Leiyu. You have not mentioned another person who could be a "he", therefore, why are you repeating the name?
  2. Reference confusion: "Where did he go? Leiyu wondered." Who is "he"? This is a reference to a previous chapter, not this chapter. If your reader cannot infer from reading this chapter, because the pronoun is referring to something that does not exist in your current text, it is therefore confusing. A name should be used instead. You can never be sure when your reader is going to stop reading chapters and come back to your story. It might be as soon as they were done with the last one, a month later, or a year. Or never.

1. Interesting feedback. I alternated between "Leiyu" and "he" just so it wouldn't sound monotonous (otherwise, I'd have three consecutive sentences starting with "he").
2. This comment was quite helpful. I'll probably edit this to make it more clear.

Conclusion:

Truth be told, in your latest chapter, although being your largest, was also quite well written.

Thanks! This might be because the novel is now further ahead in the story than the webcomic, so the chapters are getting longer since I no longer have to follow the webcomic episode.

Nothing really required being nitpicked, as most of the things above could be seen as a quest toward what this chick would call excellence and not so much toward readability so much. Yet, for all this excellency and readability talk, your story does lack something sorely: plot advancement.

Twenty-seven chapters of story and there does not seem to have been much advance from where the characters have been. Of course, we could argue that your chapters are not very long, and yet, that should not be an excuse. Your story is almost, and mark the word almost, a slice-of-life, so slow does the plot advance. It is not one because there is no interest whatsoever in simply portraying how the characters are in their daily life, instead there being in how it will change with each other's encounter and possibly how it will play out. The prince is not simply living out a princely life, and the merchant-cum-warrior is not simply living a double one. Their beings mingle, and this consequence is not a slice-of-life novel. At least, not as of the latest 27, which seems to show that such an encounter was predestined, and therefore, the beginning of a journey toward something that will be much more than the author showing the various simple (many times not so) conflicts of their every being.

Therefore, both the way that the story is written, and its length, makes the plot for the most glaring point for this bird's feather to point. There is slow plot development and there is also no plot development. Which one will your story be? Whereas you can write pretty things, without a compelling reason for your readers to follow, why should they read your promise of tags? While this could all be just you complementing your webcomic, as a standalone experience, this is developing oh-so-slow that it does not have much to offer by itself.

There was a battle scene in Chapters 5-7 (it's a flashback - Leiyu was telling the prince about his travels) and the main characters spar with each other in Chapters 11-12 (and there is a detail at the end of Chapter 11 which will become important later in the story).

And while we are on the topic of multimedia serializations, each media usually complements each other. One has a bit more than the other, delivering different experiences. This is due to each media working best to deliver a type of experience. If you are experimenting with both the visual side of the webcomic and the ideographic side of the novel, you could do well to understand what are the pros and cons of each media before you proceed to a bigger and more meaningful story.
Have a good day, fledging artist. May your experiment bear you good fruits.

Thank you for the detailed response. It's good to hear things from a reader's POV. If I end up rebooting the series, I'll probably consolidate some of the earlier chapters.
 

TsumiHokiro

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I humbly offer my story, The Miserably Macabre Tales of Luna Samuels as potential chicken feed.

Trigger Warning: Do be advised, if any of your chickies have an allergy to non-explicit mentions of self-harm, mental health issues and suicidal thoughts, my story may upset your chicken's tummies.

Greetings, KDBooks97. The chicks have accepted your offer, and in return come with feedback.

Firstly, we would like to say that for the purpose of these words, chapters 1, 10 and 21 have been read. No problems regarding the content have been found, in fact, the novel which this chicken pen writes, right from the first scene, second chapter if you consider the prologue, contains more disturbing content in the opinion of the chick who has written these words. If the bird were to sum up the opinion of your novel in as few words as possible, it would be these: it requires editing.
Chapter 1:​
  1. The fine details: "I fidget with a stray lock of hair that has found it's way out of my ponytail," "Thankfully my sister, Kris, keeps me sane," "Her family accepted me when my mother grew tired of my 'rebellious spirit' I wanted to wear makeup." Each is not worth a comment of its own: "found its way out", "thankfully, my sister", "'rebellious spirit.' I wanted." But these have been adding up, and three is kind of a magic number for the birds. Oh, there are more later, it's just that these were the first three that squirmed their way to this chick's eye.
Chapter 10:​
  1. Then/Than: "'prove myself' as something other then a leech to the Wooding family," "There are more forms of self harm then just injuring yourself, dear." This is awkward… but your "then", consequence, is actually "than", comparative. There are other instances of it, so please, check them, if you would. Unless you are trying to give us something subliminal… that would be scary. Verily so!
Chapter 21:​
  1. Idea Incongruence: "Kris was sat at the table, enjoying a lukewarm cup of instant coffee," "In her hand held a shopping bag." For someone who was forced to be sat, they sure are enjoying themselves. Is this something that remained from you editing the sentence? And the second one, same case, you rephrased it but you forgot to make sense of what came before the sentence, "In".
Conclusion:

A very well-written novel, with a good story. If there is something that maculates this story from shining is the frequent small lack of attention to details from post writing. A lacking comma, a period that is missing, a wrong possessive. The whole "Then" for "Than" took these chicks for surprise! They asked each other to be sure it was not Author intentional, trying to deliver some kind of double meaning to our unsuspecting protagonist and reader, but such a trick would have been so subtle, because the text does not cue us in, readers, nor our protagonist, in this nefarious plot that we, the chicken pen as a whole, had to ask: is this intentional or is this a flagrant mistake?! For if the words had been marked differently, highlighted somehow, it would have been easier to understand as being part of the story! Otherwise, this just reinforces the idea that there has not been a post-written author's editing of the chapters…

Of course, if for some reason these small mistakes that somehow or another allow double meaning are intentional, do apologize this chick! For they are so subtle that they have gone over its capacity to understand them as being a writer's wit! Otherwise, do iron them out. Your story is very interesting without such little schemes that seem more like oversights. Or make them more obvious.
Have a happy new year, Book Writer.
 

patrick_lansing

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Oh chick of the interwebs, I leave my meager story for thy pickings. Pick what thy will.

 
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Oh great chick- it seems my story was missed (if skipper for other reason tvis is fine) so I humbly offer it up again!


 

KDBooks97

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Greetings, KDBooks97. The chicks have accepted your offer, and in return come with feedback.

Firstly, we would like to say that for the purpose of these words, chapters 1, 10 and 21 have been read. No problems regarding the content have been found, in fact, the novel which this chicken pen writes, right from the first scene, second chapter if you consider the prologue, contains more disturbing content in the opinion of the chick who has written these words. If the bird were to sum up the opinion of your novel in as few words as possible, it would be these: it requires editing.
Chapter 1:​
  1. The fine details: "I fidget with a stray lock of hair that has found it's way out of my ponytail," "Thankfully my sister, Kris, keeps me sane," "Her family accepted me when my mother grew tired of my 'rebellious spirit' I wanted to wear makeup." Each is not worth a comment of its own: "found its way out", "thankfully, my sister", "'rebellious spirit.' I wanted." But these have been adding up, and three is kind of a magic number for the birds. Oh, there are more later, it's just that these were the first three that squirmed their way to this chick's eye.
Chapter 10:​
  1. Then/Than: "'prove myself' as something other then a leech to the Wooding family," "There are more forms of self harm then just injuring yourself, dear." This is awkward… but your "then", consequence, is actually "than", comparative. There are other instances of it, so please, check them, if you would. Unless you are trying to give us something subliminal… that would be scary. Verily so!
Chapter 21:​
  1. Idea Incongruence: "Kris was sat at the table, enjoying a lukewarm cup of instant coffee," "In her hand held a shopping bag." For someone who was forced to be sat, they sure are enjoying themselves. Is this something that remained from you editing the sentence? And the second one, same case, you rephrased it but you forgot to make sense of what came before the sentence, "In".
Conclusion:

A very well-written novel, with a good story. If there is something that maculates this story from shining is the frequent small lack of attention to details from post writing. A lacking comma, a period that is missing, a wrong possessive. The whole "Then" for "Than" took these chicks for surprise! They asked each other to be sure it was not Author intentional, trying to deliver some kind of double meaning to our unsuspecting protagonist and reader, but such a trick would have been so subtle, because the text does not cue us in, readers, nor our protagonist, in this nefarious plot that we, the chicken pen as a whole, had to ask: is this intentional or is this a flagrant mistake?! For if the words had been marked differently, highlighted somehow, it would have been easier to understand as being part of the story! Otherwise, this just reinforces the idea that there has not been a post-written author's editing of the chapters…

Of course, if for some reason these small mistakes that somehow or another allow double meaning are intentional, do apologize this chick! For they are so subtle that they have gone over its capacity to understand them as being a writer's wit! Otherwise, do iron them out. Your story is very interesting without such little schemes that seem more like oversights. Or make them more obvious.
Have a happy new year, Book Writer.
Thank you so much for your feedback. This is my first draft and I intend to go back through it with a fine tooth comb with the feedback I've been collecting recently and make my novel even better! Your review is well thought out and helpful, thank you so much little chickies!

I struggle with idea incongruence a LOT in the story, which alongside the screwy punctuation, I need to go through and fix once I have the time.
 

SurfAngel_1031

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Greetings, KDBooks97. The chicks have accepted your offer, and in return come with feedback.

Firstly, we would like to say that for the purpose of these words, chapters 1, 10 and 21 have been read. No problems regarding the content have been found, in fact, the novel which this chicken pen writes, right from the first scene, second chapter if you consider the prologue, contains more disturbing content in the opinion of the chick who has written these words. If the bird were to sum up the opinion of your novel in as few words as possible, it would be these: it requires editing.
Chapter 1:​
  1. The fine details: "I fidget with a stray lock of hair that has found it's way out of my ponytail," "Thankfully my sister, Kris, keeps me sane," "Her family accepted me when my mother grew tired of my 'rebellious spirit' I wanted to wear makeup." Each is not worth a comment of its own: "found its way out", "thankfully, my sister", "'rebellious spirit.' I wanted." But these have been adding up, and three is kind of a magic number for the birds. Oh, there are more later, it's just that these were the first three that squirmed their way to this chick's eye.
Chapter 10:​
  1. Then/Than: "'prove myself' as something other then a leech to the Wooding family," "There are more forms of self harm then just injuring yourself, dear." This is awkward… but your "then", consequence, is actually "than", comparative. There are other instances of it, so please, check them, if you would. Unless you are trying to give us something subliminal… that would be scary. Verily so!
Chapter 21:​
  1. Idea Incongruence: "Kris was sat at the table, enjoying a lukewarm cup of instant coffee," "In her hand held a shopping bag." For someone who was forced to be sat, they sure are enjoying themselves. Is this something that remained from you editing the sentence? And the second one, same case, you rephrased it but you forgot to make sense of what came before the sentence, "In".
Conclusion:

A very well-written novel, with a good story. If there is something that maculates this story from shining is the frequent small lack of attention to details from post writing. A lacking comma, a period that is missing, a wrong possessive. The whole "Then" for "Than" took these chicks for surprise! They asked each other to be sure it was not Author intentional, trying to deliver some kind of double meaning to our unsuspecting protagonist and reader, but such a trick would have been so subtle, because the text does not cue us in, readers, nor our protagonist, in this nefarious plot that we, the chicken pen as a whole, had to ask: is this intentional or is this a flagrant mistake?! For if the words had been marked differently, highlighted somehow, it would have been easier to understand as being part of the story! Otherwise, this just reinforces the idea that there has not been a post-written author's editing of the chapters…

Of course, if for some reason these small mistakes that somehow or another allow double meaning are intentional, do apologize this chick! For they are so subtle that they have gone over its capacity to understand them as being a writer's wit! Otherwise, do iron them out. Your story is very interesting without such little schemes that seem more like oversights. Or make them more obvious.
Have a happy new year, Book Writer.
Another fine review. I thoroughly enjoy seeing your feedback. It also looks like your popularity is growing! Keep up the good work!
 

TsumiHokiro

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Oh great chick- it seems my story was missed (if skipper for other reason tvis is fine) so I humbly offer it up again!


It was skipped? :blob_dizzy: :blob_no: :blob_facepalm:
Your story shall be done this day, worry not!
 

TsumiHokiro

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Hello great chick! I've just started my first public story and would love feedback on it, particularly anything that seems to be habits that can become bad down the line, but any feedback would be very useful! It is smutty, i hope the chicken does not mind.

My story!
Greetings, someawkwardflame. The chicks would like to apologize for skipping your text, first and foremost. They have come to you with feedback.

First, for the purpose of this return, chapters 1.01 and 1.11 have been read. A warning for those who are not familiar with the content of the work, but the following text will have a few mature words, since this is obviously PORN. That said, the chick who was fed had no problem reading the contents, and has returned the following opinion:
Chapter 1:​
  1. Story time: "At the base, two fat, bubblegum pink balls, are softer and moveable." You've chosen past tense for your narrator, and therefore, it should have been past tense for the descriptions. The balls were, even if the object still is. Stick to your narrator tense, this is called consistency. Unless you desire to describe all objects in the present, and all actions in the past. That is also consistency. But try not to confuse things. Usually, if you have chosen a tense for your narrator, you apply it to everything, to make things simpler for yourself, and for your readers. Alternating the verb tense means the story is happening some time else, and it can, and will eventually, create confusion of some sort. Even if most times it might simply be nitpicking, a time will come where such non-adherence to rules will cause double meaning. It's just a question of how much you write and when you use it.
Chapter 11:​
  1. Appositive: "The rest of her Fiona was ashamed to say, didn't do anything". You do like the use of appositives, don't you? They are typically separated from the text by commas, in this example it should have been "Her, Fiona (…) say, didn't," or by en dashes, not hyphens. They are a formal structure of the text, being actually separate from the normal flow of the sentence but still providing extra information to it. They should not break normal sentences, either being placed at the beginning or the end of a normal one for better flow, but this is only as a rule, and not as a law. This way, you do not forget that they do not complete the sentence they have broken. You have not done this so far.
  2. Repeated words: 🐓 , Large. Diversity is the spice of life. You are not spending your time writing about the same encounters. Expand a bit your lexical approach and things can be much more interesting… especially when these words are repeated in series. There is a mystic to making repetition being nice: you prepare the reader for them, give meaning to it. They are not simply done randomly. Few people can do that. Whereas in porn it can be easier done, since it is much more about repetition, a few steps cannot be skipped in the process, such as preparing the reader to the symbolism that the word will take in the scene. Here, the words have grown dull. "Fiona had a cock, and that cock needed to cum" is a good example of where you have given real meaning to the repetition.
  3. Purple prose: "The boss, seemingly was just observing. Stood in the middle," "didn't do nothing to her the more forward". It is written here that the Boss was faking observing them, since it just seemed she was observing, and not really observing. It's usually "anything" and not "nothing", and "to her more forward". This is the power of purple. It makes things tiresome.
  4. Repetitive ideas: "in a last ditch effort, a death knell". Not really the same word, but the idea is the same, and it's probably here because you enjoy flowering your prose.
Conclusion:

This chick will consider this work being the same as any other, as in, a written work, for any purposes, it does not care about the rating that people would judge it to be deserved of reading. That said, it also understands that some words are not appropriate in the forum; therefore it shall restrict to say that the spice of life is diversity and that knowing how to use them is the very art of writing.

In the first chapter, the main character has a veritable collection of toys, probably not because they only like to collect, but also to indulge in. The same should be said about the aspiring author: they should know how to colour their narrative so that their text is not full of the sameness that is most often characteristic of an instruction manual and a pamphlet.

Also, colouring should be given when appropriate; to know when to describe is essential. Writing too many words can instead make your wording tiresome. This came to be in the latest chapter, which might be because it had more action of the non-mature type, perhaps? For the other kind of action, this bird became a bit more lenient. This bird is no expert in judging how mammals, or rather, primates get horny, therefore cannot offer you ANY kind of advice in the second nature? First nature of your work, unfortunately.
Have a good year, Flaming Artist.
 
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Oh dear, I think my story is next! Now i'm nervous haha 😅😄
 
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Greetings, someawkwardflame. The chicks would like to apologize for skipping your text, first and foremost. They have come to you with feedback.

First, for the purpose of this return, chapters 1.01 and 1.11 have been read. A warning for those who are not familiar with the content of the work, but the following text will have a few mature words, since this is obviously PORN. That said, the chick who was fed had no problem reading the contents, and has returned the following opinion:
Chapter 1:​
  1. Story time: "At the base, two fat, bubblegum pink balls, are softer and moveable." You've chosen past tense for your narrator, and therefore, it should have been past tense for the descriptions. The balls were, even if the object still is. Stick to your narrator tense, this is called consistency. Unless you desire to describe all objects in the present, and all actions in the past. That is also consistency. But try not to confuse things. Usually, if you have chosen a tense for your narrator, you apply it to everything, to make things simpler for yourself, and for your readers. Alternating the verb tense means the story is happening some time else, and it can, and will eventually, create confusion of some sort. Even if most times it might simply be nitpicking, a time will come where such non-adherence to rules will cause double meaning. It's just a question of how much you write and when you use it.
Chapter 11:​
  1. Appositive: "The rest of her Fiona was ashamed to say, didn't do anything". You do like the use of appositives, don't you? They are typically separated from the text by commas, in this example it should have been "Her, Fiona (…) say, didn't," or by en dashes, not hyphens. They are a formal structure of the text, being actually separate from the normal flow of the sentence but still providing extra information to it. They should not break normal sentences, either being placed at the beginning or the end of a normal one for better flow, but this is only as a rule, and not as a law. This way, you do not forget that they do not complete the sentence they have broken. You have not done this so far.
  2. Repeated words: 🐓 , Large. Diversity is the spice of life. You are not spending your time writing about the same encounters. Expand a bit your lexical approach and things can be much more interesting… especially when these words are repeated in series. There is a mystic to making repetition being nice: you prepare the reader for them, give meaning to it. They are not simply done randomly. Few people can do that. Whereas in porn it can be easier done, since it is much more about repetition, a few steps cannot be skipped in the process, such as preparing the reader to the symbolism that the word will take in the scene. Here, the words have grown dull. "Fiona had a cock, and that cock needed to cum" is a good example of where you have given real meaning to the repetition.
  3. Purple prose: "The boss, seemingly was just observing. Stood in the middle," "didn't do nothing to her the more forward". It is written here that the Boss was faking observing them, since it just seemed she was observing, and not really observing. It's usually "anything" and not "nothing", and "to her more forward". This is the power of purple. It makes things tiresome.
  4. Repetitive ideas: "in a last ditch effort, a death knell". Not really the same word, but the idea is the same, and it's probably here because you enjoy flowering your prose.
Conclusion:

This chick will consider this work being the same as any other, as in, a written work, for any purposes, it does not care about the rating that people would judge it to be deserved of reading. That said, it also understands that some words are not appropriate in the forum; therefore it shall restrict to say that the spice of life is diversity and that knowing how to use them is the very art of writing.

In the first chapter, the main character has a veritable collection of toys, probably not because they only like to collect, but also to indulge in. The same should be said about the aspiring author: they should know how to colour their narrative so that their text is not full of the sameness that is most often characteristic of an instruction manual and a pamphlet.

Also, colouring should be given when appropriate; to know when to describe is essential. Writing too many words can instead make your wording tiresome. This came to be in the latest chapter, which might be because it had more action of the non-mature type, perhaps? For the other kind of action, this bird became a bit more lenient. This bird is no expert in judging how mammals, or rather, primates get horny, therefore cannot offer you ANY kind of advice in the second nature? First nature of your work, unfortunately.
Have a good year, Flaming Artist.
Thank you so much - I am very happy with this feedback as you've highlighted what I think are some of my biggest weaknesses and have already started working on correcting, so it's not to have confirmation I seem to be trying to improve the same thing.

I think I will also find a way to mark the smutty chapters and the non smutty ones as there are far more of the second, everyone reviewing seems to just pick the first accidentally though:) it's not just porn, it's light hearted fantasy adventure too (with porn for spice)

Thank you so much again oh great chicken for taking the time!
 

TsumiHokiro

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Oh oh oh me next, oh great, wise, and handsomest chicken with the prettiest feathers! Hear my words and appraisal, it would be an honor if you were to give my story a chance and reward me with your perspective!

Fair warning, it's got a focus on smut content but there's more to it than just sex. Trust me!

Greetings, Sylver. Thank you for your great words, know that the chicks have fought over who would have the turn of feeding over your story after your delightful words… not really, but know they were well received at least. The bird who won the fight has come with the following words back to you.

Firstly, the chick has read chapters Prologue, 15 and 37 for the purpose of this review, and has counted with the support of another bird during the reading but mostly alone for the writing of the following text. Summing up the following, your text can get quite confusing sometimes, either due to some strange ideas that lurk into it, because of some misunderstandings you might have of the English language, or because of some edits you might make in the text and not iron to perfection.
Chapter Prologue:​
  1. Misc Eng: "you almost as if tiny little faires tickled your senses," "this place is on the inside then it seemed on the outside". Each one of these is something you should work one, but not the last one.
  2. Reference confusion: "Sat upon the desk smiling as you approach her is a young looking woman". Who sat and who do I approach? Who is her? This is so confusing.
  3. Idea Incongruence: "Clean air, nice wooden work with that squeaky creak with each step you take." What nice wooden work that creaks?
Chapter 15:​
  1. The paragraph: "She kissed him (…) into the farm." It is almost like you do not want to let go of your ideas. You start a paragraph with A and end it with Z. If dialogue were not a thing, your paragraphs would also not be a thing. For those that are not close to someone speaking, are HUGE. You group needlessly ideas that could work better on their own.
  2. Idea Incongruence: "He peeled off his sweaty tunic and used it to wipe away the sweat off". People don't usually use wet things to dry.
  3. Misc English: "hugging her mates arm," "The strength in is legs began," "feet against the cat girls chest," "them were stronger then before." There are still many of these errant mistakes left.
  4. Idea incongruence: "Not even the insects dared to move or blink," "Long have I been in search (…) Though the scent is different, not human I believe…", "KuliKuli was not playing around." Each one of these ideas is a strange thing: Do insects blink? Never seen one do; She is a wolf, she should orientate herself through smell, and therefore be aware that others were there from that and not by sight, and then they also have acute sound sense;
  5. Reference Confusion: "He smiled but she could still sadness in his eyes." Could what?
Chapter 37:​
  1. Repetitive words: "Light." "Begin to." While one of them is the visible phenomenon, and the other is one of its descriptions, it has been overly repeated and lost its magnanimity. Why are you ALWAYS prefixing your verbs with beginning during the performance?
  2. Reference confusion: "Just at a quick glance ahead", "As he explained, he began tapped the side of his head with his finger". What did she take a quick glance at? What was the consequence of this? This is not how English typically works. Began tapped? This is most likely the remains of an edit. They are EVERYWHERE.
  3. Idea incongruence: "in a fancy cylinder hat", "as the crowd began to grow quiet after a minute had passed, leaving the air grow awkward" Cylinder hat instead of a Top Hat? It makes me think of so many weird things. A ring master is the one who leads the act, and therefore, they would never let things grow awkward, because their role is to make sure everyone is having fun, rescuing others when things go wrong. They are the utmost senior staff in the show.
Conclusion:

You repeatedly commit the same confusing things: your ideas sometimes go wrong due to how they sound in English, probably due to not being that familiar with the idea initially; repeating words and ideas where you could have gone with a little broader approach; probably forgetting to review your chapters before you post them.

The various words with disturbing ideas, such as when insects blink, when you forget to complete a "could" sentence, and mistaken a "than" for a "then", by themselves are not that much, but united created a surreal picture that is pervasive and has distracted the chicks from enjoying what could have otherwise been a pleasant fantasy tale. Understand, also, that your overly long paragraphs also do not help, since they put together notions that would make better sense separate. This would also help readers to better navigate your story in case they get lost when they are reading.

In the end, there has never really been something that by itself was enough for saying "OK, this is a real mistake," but just so many little things that have made your story be reminded as fragments of inconsistencies and weird choices. This chick does believe that you can write something good, it is just that without ironing out these strange things left behind either by poor edits or poor understanding of the language, your story might not be more than light entertainment. And you have some interesting ideas in your text that could be presented better. It is all about how you are presenting them, not the so much the quality of them.
This chick hopes you have a good day.
 
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