Could this man be forgiven?

[Deleted member 54065]

Might want to watch your phrasing there. The way you phrased this, it looks like you said you are only against rape if it's heterosexual in nature, and you are just fine with homosexual rape.

Well, you really did misunderstand, coz I also fought against homosexual rape. Male and female.

 

[Corty]

Everyone who looks at someone who is not eligible to act in porn movies should have their eyes pulled out.

Or you know, be a real human and face how the world works. Honestly? I doubt this soap-opera-like story even happened. It smells like some turkish tv show manuscript or something kids come up with while bored in school.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Or you know, be a real human and face how the world works. Honestly? I doubt this soap-opera-like story even happened. It smells like some turkish tv show manuscript or something kids come up with while bored in school.

I got a client before who was accused of child abuse, simply because the child 'cried wolf'. And know what? Everyone believed the kid, though we did manage to prove it was a false accusation.

Sad part is, every person that guy knew already judged him as if he actually did the act. Including his closest friends and family. Nearly killed himself in the end...(I don't know what happened to him afterwards)

So, uh, though it may sound like a plot of an afternoon soap opera...well, as some say, "The truth is weirder than fiction". If you work with victims of 'sexual crimes', it will break you.

 

[ACertainPassingUser]

If he already improved, regret his actions, and no longer does the thing he's acussed of, he deserves to be forgiven.

Especially if someone didn't really know the rule of Pedo and stuff.

If the horrible treatment continues, it's just the society doing their cruelty. Kinda nice for them to be able to treat people horribly without truly knowing what they're doing.

There's a reason I believe in heaven and hell. I hope people in society that does horrible actions pays for their sin.

 

[SailusGebel]

I got a client before who was accused of child abuse, simply because the child 'cried wolf'. And know what? Everyone believed the kid, though we did manage to prove it was a false accusation.

Sad part is, every person that guy knew already judged him as if he actually did the act. Including his closest friends and family. Nearly killed himself in the end...(I don't know what happened to him afterwards)

So, uh, though it may sound like a plot of an afternoon soap opera...well, as some say, "The truth is weirder than fiction".

It may happen in real life, but this particular case looks fake. At least how it was presented make it look fake.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

It may happen in real life, but this particular case looks fake. At least how it was presented make it look fake.

True. I purposefully omitted the details.

 

[Corty]

I got a client before who was accused of child abuse, simply because the child 'cried wolf'. And know what? Everyone believed the kid, though we did manage to prove it was a false accusation.

Being accused by a child of child abuse is a different story than a 20-year-old making out with a 16-year-old at a party.

I don't know if I met any one kind of person who told me "he is on a redemption arc of his own". Albeit, I am not part of a Mormon collective or anything close to that. Hell, I had some sociopathic guy trying to shank me with a screwdriver after school and after he was put on medication he tried to play it off like we were still buddies. Never even mention a redemption arc, not even while on heavy drugs to sedate his mind. Soooo... yeah. I call BS on this story.

Also, the details of the story are weird. What was he working at 20 that his then co-workers witch-hunted him out of his life almost for acting like, you know, a damned 20-year-old? Now after literally starting a new life, at a new place he acts like chuunibyou and like the cool and mysterious guy, opening up to the only one who invites him to a beer. Telling the one story that may ruin his life... again?

This simply does not add up. This is not how real humans would work or act. Once again, I call BS.

 

[Poleg]

Also, the details of the story are weird. What was he working at 20 that his then co-workers witch-hunted him out of his life almost for acting like, you know, a damned 20-year-old? Now after literally starting a new life, at a new place he acts like chuunibyou and like the cool and mysterious guy, opening up to the only one who invites him to a beer. Telling the one story that may ruin his life... again?

Some are really that stupid and do something like this.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Being accused by a child of child abuse is a different story than a 20-year-old making out with a 16-year-old at a party.

I don't know if I met any one kind of person who told me "he is on a redemption arc of his own". Albeit, I am not part of a Mormon collective or anything close to that. Hell, I had some sociopathic guy trying to shank me with a screwdriver after school and after he was put on medication he tried to play it off like we were still buddies. Never even mention a redemption arc, not even while on heavy drugs to sedate his mind. Soooo... yeah. I call BS on this story.

Also, the details of the story are weird. What was he working at 20 that his then co-workers witch-hunted him out of his life almost for acting like, you know, a damned 20-year-old? Now after literally starting a new life, at a new place he acts like chuunibyou and like the cool and mysterious guy, opening up to the only one who invites him to a beer. Telling the one story that may ruin his life... again?

This simply does not add up. This is not how real humans would work or act. Once again, I call BS.

Heh, the weirder it gets, the higher the possibility of truth in it. At least, that's what I came to conclude, after working with similar cases.

In any case, in my place, a 20-year old making out (kissing or even just holding hands, if the parents decide to sue) with a 16-year old can be a probable cause for a 'child abuse' case. It's that 'light'. Heck, it's what caused one of the viral videos of a teacher here to be taken down, because he stated that he's 'trying to look cute for his pretty students' (this is the translated English version). The teacher also got slapped with administrative case, and is in danger of losing his job; and the police also came in looking for a probable cause for a criminal case.

 

[Jet]

I don't understand what's the problem here even. He kissed a 4years younger than himself girl while having a girlfriend already. Fair enough, but his girlfriend didn't love him and wanted to dump him anyway. Being unfaithful is no issue here.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

@SailusGebel by the way, would you like me to detail to you the events of that case I mentioned?

 

[CupcakeNinja]

Some are really that stupid and do something like this.

well yea. I mean who outright says they;re on a "journey of redemption"? sounds like some edgy teen

I don't understand what's the problem here even. He kissed a 4years younger than himself girl while having a girlfriend already. Fair enough, but his girlfriend didn't love him and wanted to dump him anyway. Being unfaithful is no issue here.

did...did you not read the story? The problem is the girl he kissed is a minor so people called him a pedophile. Overreacting, really, but thats how society is. Things like this do happen and by the time everyone heard they probably thought "he must've had sex with her" just because people like to blow things out of proportion and start rumors.

 

[SailusGebel]

@SailusGebel by the way, would you like me to detail to you the events of that case I mentioned?

Fortunately, I've never been on the receiving end of such accusations, but there are plenty of stories like that in Russia. And I'm no longer in the mood for reading such stories.

 

[Corty]

In any case, in my place, a 20-year old making out (kissing or even just holding hands, if the parents decide to sue) with a 16-year old can be a probable cause for a 'child abuse' case. It's that 'light'. Heck, it's what caused one of the viral videos of a teacher here to be taken down, because he stated that he's 'trying to look cute for his pretty students' (this is the translated English version). The teacher also got slapped with administrative case, and is in danger of losing his job; and the police also came in looking for a probable cause for a criminal case.

Geez. That is harsh AF. At least where I live we are still not that too deep into this nonsense. Soon being kind to someone who is not legal by the code of law is going to be labeled as grooming I guess. I always found it hilarious the fact that in some places you are old enough to fuck on camera but not old enough to vote or drink...

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Fortunately, I've never been on the receiving end of such accusations, but there are plenty of stories like that in Russia. And I'm no longer in the mood for reading such stories.

Ayt. My apologies my good tovarisch. Do carry on.

Geez. That is harsh AF. At least where I live we are still not that too deep into this nonsense. Soon being kind to someone who is not legal by the code of law is going to be labeled as grooming I guess. I always found it hilarious the fact that in some places you are old enough to fuck on camera but not old enough to vote or drink...

Told ya, real life can be weirder than fiction. XD

 

[Poleg]

well yea. I mean who outright says they;re on a "journey of redemption"? sounds like some edgy teen

did...did you not read the story? The problem is the girl he kissed is a minor so people called him a pedophile. Overreacting, really, but thats how society is. Things like this do happen and by the time everyone heard they probably thought "he must've had sex with her" just because people like to blow things out of proportion and start rumors.

Some people are just edgy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I had a similar Situation (not this shit, just problems with his would have been wife) with a Coworker and you could have thought that he was quoting anime or something. Sometimes it is ok to be edgy.

 

[LilRora]

I work at a factory, decent pay, decent hours, and amazing coworkers all around. It's a good job overall; however, there's this coworker of mine who I found interesting. Let's call him, Quetin. Quetin is a quiet dude, keeps things to himself, not afraid to say whatever is on his mind, just a cool dude in general. One day I decided to invite him out to drink, and we casually talk. Throughout our conversation, he tells me he's on a journey of "redemption".

When he was 20 (he's now 31), he kissed his ex's best friend (let's call her Charlotte), who was 16 at the time, and he regretted it. He never had any tendecy to be with underage girls, and he knew he screwed up big time. His justification at the time was that his ex canceled on every dates he was planning, and Charlotte was the only one to comfort him at those tough times. He later found out that his ex was making excuses not to be with him, and Charlotte also had feelings for him. That's what caused Quetin to kiss Charlotte. Then after realizing his mistake kissing a 16 year old, Quetin naively told Charlotte's girlfriend (Charlotte was a lesbian, but Quetin was the only male she ever had feelings for) because he thought he could trust her. Another one of his mistakes.

Turns out Charlotte's girlfriend was also friends with his ex, and so his ex found out about it too. Eventually it just became a fuck fess and Quetin was quickly accused of being a pedo at his workplace (he worked in the same place with his ex, Charlotte, and Charlotte's girlfriend). Basically nobody, even the coworkers whom he thought were his friends didn't want to talk to him. He barely got any invites to their parties anymore, but his ex does. That incident alone caused him to think about suicide. He was convinced he didn't deserve to live, that he didn't deserve a second chance, but he told me he couldn't go through with it because he thought about his family who supported him. His siblings were the only ones in his mind to kept him sane.

So he later left his workplace, basically cut all of his coworkers off from his life, and swore to improve himself. He seems pretty chill from my perspective. As a young male myself, he advises me not to go for the crazy chicks no matter how pretty they look or even date your coworkers.

Now, Quetin owns a business of his own, still single mind you. I talk to him every now and then. Plus, it's been 10 years, so I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

What do you guys think? Do you think he can be forgiven for his actions?

Honestly... I really want to ask what did he do to be forgiven at all? Did he kiss Charlotte forcefully, disregarding her protests or something? If not, if it was just a stupid impulse or something he did spontanously without thinking it through, then I don't see what he would need to be forgiven for by anyone apart from Charlotte. And for that he definitely can be fogiven, as long as he is honest about it (which he seemingly was at the time, just with the wrong person, but that's beside the point).

The way I see it, the only reason this whole thing blew to this proportions was because he made a mistake of trusting Charlotte's girlfriend, and if someone should be asking for forgiveness, it should be her, because she bertayed his trust and basically ruined his whole life over something that could be easily solved with an honest talk and was arguably caused by his ex's dishonesty in the first place.

In my personal opinion this whole sitation looks like a fucking circus. Or a very bad drama. If he is shunned, scorned and can't be forgiven for a single kiss, even if it was with a minor, then I've no idea what he actually could be forgiven for.

 

[Jemini]

Well, you really did misunderstand, coz I also fought against homosexual rape. Male and female.

I didn't misunderstand. I knew you were saying you were against all of it for common sense reasons. But, I was pointing out that the way you phrased that makes it easy to misunderstand so you might want to clean up that lack of clarity.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

I didn't misunderstand. I knew you were saying you were against all of it for common sense reasons. But, I was pointing out that the way you phrased that makes it easy to misunderstand so you might want to clean up that lack of clarity.

Ah, thanks for the heads up! But I won't be changing what I already answered, simply for the reason that I already cleared it in my earlier reply to you. Still, thanks for notifying me! ^_^

 

[TotallyHuman]

yes. At least those can have justifiable reasons. But rape aint ever about anything but you not being able to control your cock. Or pussy.

what if you're in prison and have to do it to not be looked on as weak by your ferocious inmates?