TsumiHokiro
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A coherent, additive scene instead of just being an opportunity for the author to show their skill of depicting battle action.
Small recommendation.Not gonna lie, I'm a sucker for one-man army type of thing. I don't know, it just sounds badass. More so, if the character is actually struggling.
I've watched the show but haven't read the LN yet. Though I think I know this part of the story, where he get back to his old world.Small recommendation.
Have you read the "after-stories" of Arifureta ? (the part when MC-group and classmates are back on earth)
There is this arc for "hero" dude (trying to get redemption by doing good deeds), somehow is isekai-ed again.
Dang. How the hell is he unconscious but still manage to hold out. I guess its the sword's ability but, really?But the funny thing is.
Previous chapter, have him fight bunch of op demons, but soon turn wounded, to the point of needing to "bandage" his sword around his hand so it doesnt fall.
And next chapter, directly time skip to him, being in near-dying state, entirely red and holes, unconscious-standing, but somehow miraculously still defending the basement despite unconscious. With, "his shining sword's light seemingly going out like a dying lamp" and "any demon coming close were cut in half before seeing how he does it" bc entered a "swordsman ultimate state".
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The "fight" is less about the coolness of witnessing the fight, but more about the atmosphere, his sacrifice and everything else.
I had goosebumps all over my body by how cool it was.
That is the interesting/funny thingI've watched the show but haven't read the LN yet. Though I think I know this part of the story, where he get back to his old world.
Dang. How the hell is he unconscious but still manage to hold out. I guess its the sword's ability but, really?
So, he's just there standing, not even with his sense alive butchering any demon that came close. That's cool.
No offense but from what you said, it truly tell that you are poisoned [<i can't think of any softer word to tell this] by nowadays generic isekais, where all the "op" things come from "cheats""i guess its the sword ability, but really?"
I think redemption is a extremely interesting concept in novels because our entire justice system is build upon retribution, except for Switzerlands? It should be Switzerland but that's not important, so it's even more subjective how much the person would need to do to redeem themself.After MC beat him, and brought him back with rest of class to earth, dude unlike others that live "normally", chose to try to redeem himself for his betrayal by helping people, around the globe => imagine Archer of Fate IP
I think character that care about themself more and still have remorse and regret for there actions are more interesting but that's just a matter of subjectivity.For this kind of characters (like Archer), the value of their own LIFE < Saving someone. And living = hell. Full of remorses and regrets.
Your explanation is quite detailed, very coolThat is the interesting/funny thing
Arifureta
As one of the masterpiece at that time, it was popular like the other classics
but it won quite a lot of new fans with the "after-stories" part (you can google which chapter it start)
In fact i am one of them.
It is THE UNIQUE isekai series, that described THE ISEKAI part, and, THE RETURN-ON-EARTH part
(nowadays generic "return isekai or chinese/kr returners" don't count because they skip, while arifureta, is a entire isekai story AND wrote the return)
Its called "after-stories", that give off a feeling of "extra stories/epilogue" but in fact, its not. Its truly a continuation. And attract(ed) fans that heard rumors of the MC life back on earth (and also bc KR/CH manhwa-hua werent a thing yet)
Also it is still "continued" even now
(though irregular schedule and didnt check for a while)
You could say that "afterstories" > "isekai" of Arifureta
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As for the unconscious thing.
For previous "otaku gen", it wasnt that rare. And the most famous one was probably ROCK LEE in naruto.
Though in this arifureta case he wasnt really unconscious but near-death blurry conscious.
For another analogy, you can think of when a soldier is bleeding out, and the mind is blurred, or someone drunk. Kinda conscious but not.
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No offense but from what you said, it truly tell that you are poisoned [<i can't think of any softer word to tell this] by nowadays generic isekais, where all the "op" things come from "cheats"
Nope, it's just a question of "mental fortitude" that any humans has. In this case, breaking limits. (Have you never heard the old anecdote example of "a mother lifted a car/boulder to save her child" ?)
That is why "no cheat = best cheat". A extinct trope. Another masterpiece that also follow this logic is Mushoku Tensei. Just his brain, memories, and good genes with training.
Even until the end of series, sure he is in top echelons of strength, and can beat majority of population, but HE never was the TOP1 nor invincible, as there was A LOT of op people surpassing him, with even wife Eris able to beat him if "ONLY SWORDS allowed" duel.
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The atmosphere, his past
is why this scene is cool
"Hero dude" became a "betrayer" in the main story
but unlike nowadays trope of "evil hero" in revenge mangas, dude truly was normal guy/hero but became misguided half-way as he thought his method was most efficient to return.
After MC beat him, and brought him back with rest of class to earth, dude unlike others that live "normally", chose to try to redeem himself for his betrayal by helping people, around the globe => imagine Archer of Fate IP
His strength is quite good but not that op AND nerfed bc of this 2nd teleport in another isekai.
So you can think of him as "just a slightly stronger swordsman"
2nd isekai humans are on the border of annihilation, and very deserted world.
Small propaganda of "him being a hero/savior"
500+ civilians in the "wine basement/bunker" + sister of the princess of the kingdom
At start of the fight, it was already shown that the demons despite weaker, arent that much weaker (horn bull demon tackled him very badly)
His arm/hand was broken, and there is so much blood on his body (novel saying unknown if own or enemies) to the point of being entirely red and unrecognizable, that he bandaged the sword on his hand, not just because broken arm/hand, BUT ALSO SO IT DOESNT SLIP FROM THE BLOOD !
The light on the hero sword "flickering". Isnt even a buff or anything. Its just a light proving his owner is a hero. And is just a tragedic poetic writing, "flickering" = vital signs going out like a lamp that gonna go out at any moment
He is also vaccilating like a drunk man, and just looking at the ground.
Reason he is so strong despite in this "state" is because he entered the ultimate state of swordsmanship
He is not even consciously killing, but just "cutting anything coming closer"
Which will cause a small plot when soon the princess come in rescue and see him.
TLDR :
THIS "2nd-isekai-hero-guy character arc"
is BASICALLY
his very last opportunity, to redeem himself.
For this kind of characters (like Archer), the value of their own LIFE < Saving someone. And living = hell. Full of remorses and regrets.
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Bonus :
Ninja-dude
(with 0 presence), get a harem in "afterstories" (multiple arcs for him, with 1 new "heroine" each)
btw himself didnt even want the harem
(girls fell for him and bunny-wife was fine with it bc "as the right-hand man of MC, you should also have a harem)
BONUS 2 ;
THE FAMILY OF MC and waifus
WILL SEE
the journey of MC thx to a spell that show a hologram of the past
(warning tissues)
It feels even more tragic, with spectators, the "fall of MC in the abyss" and "the hellish painful reconstruction of his body to the point of turning hair white"
BONUS 3 :
The trolling "robot" Miledi Reisen
will have her backstory explained
and also a small glimpse to the infinite loneliness of waiting she endured
Her in human form (in the side novel story) long long long long ago :
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Ty for liking. Much appreciated (ovo)bYour explanation is quite detailed, very cool
Tactical battles. Doesn't matter if siege battles, open field, or duel style, as long as it isn't me see, me punch or involves friendship-fueled last-minute nuclear strike deus-ex-machina ass-pull power-ups.
Another bonus detail-spoiler i forgotYour explanation is quite detailed, very cool