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CheertheSecond

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Just heard a story from my Vietnamese friend today.
Apparently, a mother beat her daughter which caused her to commit suicide.

My friend translated a bunch of comments for me. After reading them, I couldn’t feel more disgusted.

The comments said they were beaten by their parents when they were young too but they didn’t commit suicide.

I couldn’t feel more horrible seeing those replies in the comment section of the post. I think my friend said it better than me. “They made it look like a competition.”

Is this for real?

Would they go to see someone died from a cold and showed off that they passed through covid without vaccine like some kind of flex too?
I mean discipline is needed when teaching your kids, but if your discipline caused your kid to commit suicide then something is not right with the way the parent educated her children. Your children don’t just suddenly kill themselves from a slap or a punch or a spanking. You need to do something very wrong or do something wrong in a prolonged period to accumulate and result in that consequence. Whatever the case, I think it’s not the occasion to make those aforementioned comment.

Is this just a cultural thing or am I overly sensitive?
 

Anon2024

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You are overly sensitive.

Also, people want to validate how tough they are especially if they believe they went through a trial by fire. Most won’t have sympathy for others who fail the trial by fire in their eyes.
 

ACertainPassingUser

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It's different culture.

Different culture comes with different expectations.

It's normal for casual everyday plebs of peacefuk countries to be disgusted, scared, and traumatized by gore images of bear torn corpse, while professional workers are used to seeing the grisly corpses of earthquake/tsunami victims.

You are overly sensitive.
You are overly sensitive.
Sound like a gaslight, if taken from different context.

Usually, the proper response to :
"You're overly sensitive"

Is :
"The way I feel isn't up for debate"

But with context, You're perfectly answering A or B question that OP gives.
 

SailusGebel

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It's different culture.

Different culture comes with different expectations.

It's normal for casual everyday plebs of peacefuk countries to be disgusted, scared, and traumatized by gore images of bear torn corpse, while professional workers are used to seeing the grisly corpses of earthquake/tsunami victims.



Sound like a gaslight, if taken from different context.

Usually, the proper response to :
"You're overly sensitive"

Is :
"The way I feel isn't up for debate"

But with context, You're perfectly answering A or B question that OP gives.
What?
 

Anon2024

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It's different culture.

Different culture comes with different expectations.

It's normal for casual everyday plebs of peacefuk countries to be disgusted, scared, and traumatized by gore images of bear torn corpse, while professional workers are used to seeing the grisly corpses of earthquake/tsunami victims.



Sound like a gaslight, if taken from different context.

Usually, the proper response to :
"You're overly sensitive"

Is :
"The way I feel isn't up for debate"

But with context, You're perfectly answering A or B question that OP gives.
Huh?
 

Tyranomaster

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The comments said they were beaten by their parents when they were young too but they didn’t commit suicide.

I couldn’t feel more horrible seeing those replies in the comment section of the post. I think my friend said it better than me. “They made it look like a competition.”

Is this for real?

Would they go to see someone died from a cold and showed off that they passed through covid without vaccine like some kind of flex too?
There is a difference between recognition of tragedy, and valuing resilience to said tragedies.

If people don't also value resilience to tragedy, then more tragedy will occur. There will ALWAYS be some form of suffering or tragedy in the world. If you value those who survive tragedy, then you create a culture of survivors. If you don't, you'll only perpetuate suffering. You should always strive to reduce the amount of suffering in the world however, but never at the expense of resiliency, since suffering will never be eliminated fully.
Should I change?
Its up to you, just remember that the only person you can always change is yourself, not others.
 

Anon2024

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@ACertainPassingUser

If you want the full context, overly sensitive vs a cultural thing, although we could say it’s a cultural thing in Vietnam (they’re communist/socialist after all), the reality is that there will always be something out there in the world we won’t like or can’t agree with.

In this case the OP expressed being upset at something they can’t control and is “looking for comfort” due to reading some story on the internet.

This isn’t gaslighting, because anyone who gets a strong reaction to something is overly sensitive to a specific topic. That isn’t to say there isn’t good reason to being overly sensitive.

It’s the realm of what someone can control versus what someone cannot. There are things everyone is overly sensitive too.
 

LilRora

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The people that have the most to say often stay silent, and those that speak often have little to say. And that is not supposed to be a jab at Anon or Sailus.

When you've those kinds of comments under tragic/disgusting/whatever other topic, they are mostly written by people who don't stop to think about their replies. Those that actually do and that have something worthwhile to say are typically buried under the flood of the previous type of people, or don't write anything or don't lurk around those topics in the first place for various reasons.
 

Tabula_Rasa

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Over sensitive people generally don’t hurt anyone but themselves.
Interesting...:blob_hmm_two:
If I think about it... it also means
insensitive people hurts everyone but them selves.
So...
Insensitive people are assholes.
:sweat_smile:

cultural thing
Rather than cultural thing (ethnicity driven)
It's a cultural thing (internet/youth/self-esteem issues driven)
 

Anon2024

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Interesting...:blob_hmm_two:
If I think about it... it also means
insensitive people hurts everyone but them selves.
So...
Insensitive people are assholes.
:sweat_smile:

agreed.
The people that have the most to say often stay silent, and those that speak often have little to say. And that is not supposed to be a jab at Anon or Sailus.

At least we answered the question posed by OP. You dodged the question.
 

CheertheSecond

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There is a difference between recognition of tragedy, and valuing resilience to said tragedies.

If people don't also value resilience to tragedy, then more tragedy will occur. There will ALWAYS be some form of suffering or tragedy in the world. If you value those who survive tragedy, then you create a culture of survivors. If you don't, you'll only perpetuate suffering. You should always strive to reduce the amount of suffering in the world however, but never at the expense of resiliency, since suffering will never be eliminated fully.

Its up to you, just remember that the only person you can always change is yourself, not others.
I do not want to devalue the importance of surviving a bad event. However, I do not think turning a report of a tragedy into a flexing competition is appropriate.

If during a news report about a rape, people started comparing and saying they once met suspicious individuals before but thanks to their physical prowess they thwarted the attempt unlike the victim of the current case who was not strong enough to defend herself.

I feel it is really improper to make it into a show there.

I think I didn’t make the case clear because the comments on that suicide news were clearly made to desensitise the tragedy and put the blame on the victim for committing the suicide.
 

Paul_Tromba

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I have nothing to say here. I'm all for punishing a child as a parent should but I'm against child abuse and suicide. Though I can't change other people so I'll be as kind as I can to others in order to show them some form of generosity and kindness that they may not have in their lives.
 
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