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Voidiris

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Original, can you defend this opinion?
Shitty isekai have a monopoly over Japanese culture for already some time.
The quality doesn't matter when it comes to them, only the substance, the male fantasy.
Of course higher quality ones tend to be more popular but most of the popular ones just did something the first time in this genre.
Would slime tensei be as popular if it wasn't one of the first (and had a mediocre quality at best, Is it only me or is that protagonist even worse than the bland ones because the personality makes no sense).
Would SAO be so popular if it wasn't the first? It's horrible (except the abridged version).
Would Overlord be so popular if it wasn't the first to use these tropes?

It's true for most trends.

Another example would be Naruto, it's writing especially it's world building is horrible, I have seen literal smut have more consistency in world building or at least I feel like it, probably true though.
It's character are too somewhat inconsistent. But the substance it has -at least in the 3 first seasons I watched- was good, the tragic child soldier part hit really hard.

Or look at scribblehub. Sometimes I read the smut series out of curiosity.
The truth I see makes me fucking cry.
I have seen horrible writing, oh god I have seen horrible writing I can't stop crying.
But they got substance people want to see, some have at least 'interesting' world building.

People seek most of the times only tropes, most would be overjoyed to read more about their favourite tropes.
How many times do people read something for the writing quality?
If you seek long enough you could find probably in most things problems too.

At last a personal example, Genocide online, it only concentrates on what is the story is about people and relationships.
Of course it hasn't the worst quality when it comes to writing, but the world literally bends itself for the people within to enhance the situations.
Or it's just me being far too emotional but isn't that the point?
 

2wordsperminute

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No the editor changed a lot of things. Naruto was originally going to be a tiny nine tailed fox.
They changed tons of tons of stuff but I can't remember the specifics right now.
I was talking specifically about Sasuke.
Would slime tensei be as popular if it wasn't one of the first (and had a mediocre quality at best, Is it only me or is that protagonist even worse than the bland ones because the personality makes no sense)
You're not alone, I tried reading the slime Tensei web novel, didn't like it. Could've been because of the poor translation quality, but I also just didn't like rimuru.
 

SailusGebel

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Would slime tensei be as popular if it wasn't one of the first (and had a mediocre quality at best, Is it only me or is that protagonist even worse than the bland ones because the personality makes no sense).
Would SAO be so popular if it wasn't the first? It's horrible (except the abridged version).
Both are not the first. In fact, both are far from being the first.
 

TheEldritchGod

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Women are human beings, men are human doings.
If a man isn't doing something, what good is he?
 

ElijahRyne

A Hermit that is NOT that Lazy…
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Mint is disgusting
tomatoes are disgusting
Lighting a candle to relax is stupid.
Houses with reliable modern heating have no need for a fireplace
Music that is not in English is usually better than music that is
The heroes journey is overused, and not as ubiquitous as it’s creator would have you believe
Sausage gravy belongs on chicken.
Use a pinch of cinnamon when cooking something spicy/savory.
Franz Liszt is the best composer of the romantic period.
It is perfectly reasonable to wear a winter jacket in summer, spring, and fall.
Snow is disgusting, not beautiful.
YouTube & Twitch are typically better at 2x speed
Pokemon Black and White (both 1&2) are the best of Pokémon.
3d Pokemon is ugly.
Wii sports bowling was the most boring of all the games in Wii sports.
Highly repetitive music is mostly boring
 

RepresentingEnvy

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Mint is disgusting
tomatoes are disgusting
Lighting a candle to relax is stupid.
Houses with reliable modern heating have no need for a fireplace
Music that is not in English is usually better than music that is
The heroes journey is overused, and not as ubiquitous as it’s creator would have you believe
Sausage gravy belongs on chicken.
Use a pinch of cinnamon when cooking something spicy/savory.
Franz Liszt is the best composer of the romantic period.
It is perfectly reasonable to wear a winter jacket in summer, spring, and fall.
Snow is disgusting, not beautiful.
YouTube & Twitch are typically better at 2x speed
Pokemon Black and White (both 1&2) are the best of Pokémon.
3d Pokemon is ugly.
Wii sports bowling was the most boring of all the games in Wii sports.
Highly repetitive music is mostly boring
This vampire would like to put this man on a stake.
 

ElijahRyne

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This vampire would like to put this man on a stake.
Huh?
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BigBadBoi

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One Piece is shit and people only read it due to sunk cost fallacy
Star Wars is hot garbage and the fans are just clinging to a rotting, shit covered corpse. The only decent media in that franchise is the clone wars cartoon, the video games, and the spinoff anime.
The Michael Bay Transformers movies are good films if you turn your brain off.
LitRPGs are hot garbage. I don't want to look at another excel spreadsheet ever again of numbers and skills that don't mean jack shit because the writer forgets it exists and murderhobo MCs finding an "exploit" that anybody with a working braincell can figure out.
Justin Bieber wasn't that bad. We just hated him because obnoxious teenage girls liked him and you hated him out of spite. Not saying he's good he just doesn't deserve being the internet punching bag for a decade.
Pokemon Black and White (both 1&2) are the best of Pokémon.
This is objectively correct tho
 

Haku45

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Mint is disgusting
tomatoes are disgusting
Lighting a candle to relax is stupid.
Houses with reliable modern heating have no need for a fireplace
Music that is not in English is usually better than music that is
The heroes journey is overused, and not as ubiquitous as it’s creator would have you believe
Sausage gravy belongs on chicken.
Use a pinch of cinnamon when cooking something spicy/savory.
Franz Liszt is the best composer of the romantic period.
It is perfectly reasonable to wear a winter jacket in summer, spring, and fall.
Snow is disgusting, not beautiful.
YouTube & Twitch are typically better at 2x speed
Pokemon Black and White (both 1&2) are the best of Pokémon.
3d Pokemon is ugly.
Wii sports bowling was the most boring of all the games in Wii sports.
Highly repetitive music is mostly boring
I don't see here any hot takes)
 

2wordsperminute

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You said the editor only told him Naruto needed a rival, when he actually changed basically the entire story except for the ninjas.
I specifically replied to the part about the editor making sasuke. If I meant that was the only change the editor suggested, I would have replied to a different post.
 
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