Readers Paranoia about AI

[RedHunter2296]

I know we live in a very sensitive time with the rise of AI, the theft of creativity, the theft of artistic jobs and all that, blah blah blah.

What I have also noticed lately is the paranoia of readers about whether what they are consuming is also being generated by an AI. Which is good in a way, I understand their concern.

But calling anything generated by AI like a human machine gun has its problems too.

The paranoia about AI-generated content has reached the point where some readers do not believe that what you write is original unless you show it on paper.

On other sites, several readers have marked my work on my novel as AI-generated. A 280-chapter novel, set in a world with its own lore, with elements of both fantasy and science fiction, with a long-term narrative. Where one arc is about a coup in the Botswana region and the interference of first world powers in weak countries, while the next arc is a parody of the typical Isekai adventure, only to end up in a dark and gothic fantasy world. Doing all that and planning it to make sense, with a bunch of secondary characters with their developments and hints of possible plot twists several chapters ahead.

And it's labeled as having been created by ChatGPT in an afternoon..... come on....guys

I even started publishing my novel in 2020, before all this started.

The date of the first chapter is there.

 

[PancakesWitch]

that's life

 

[Daitengu]

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[NotaNuffian]

I know we live in a very sensitive time with the rise of AI, the theft of creativity, the theft of artistic jobs and all that, blah blah blah.

What I have also noticed lately is the paranoia of readers about whether what they are consuming is also being generated by an AI. Which is good in a way, I understand their concern.

But calling anything generated by AI like a human machine gun has its problems too.

The paranoia about AI-generated content has reached the point where some readers do not believe that what you write is original unless you show it on paper.

On other sites, several readers have marked my work on my novel as AI-generated. A 280-chapter novel, set in a world with its own lore, with elements of both fantasy and science fiction, with a long-term narrative. Where one arc is about a coup in the Botswana region and the interference of first world powers in weak countries, while the next arc is a parody of the typical Isekai adventure, only to end up in a dark and gothic fantasy world. Doing all that and planning it to make sense, with a bunch of secondary characters with their developments and hints of possible plot twists several chapters ahead.

And it's labeled as having been created by ChatGPT in an afternoon..... come on....guys

I even started publishing my novel in 2020, before all this started.

The date of the first chapter is there.

Bunch of trolls.

or you can do it like Frost in Second Wind and give them the middle finger.

YouTube video

 

[fcures]

I just looked at it right now, I might start reading it just because of how it looks. You got me fucked up looking at that glossary GOD DAMN! I can't really say anything about AI writing or stuff like that, but I would just continue doing whatever I was, you can't change mfs these days even if you changed lots of stuff and made it more understandable. Their first impression was that they didn't like it, so they wouldn't even bother to reread it.

 

[RedHunter2296]

I just looked at it right now, I might start reading it just because of how it looks. You got me fucked up looking at that glossary GOD DAMN! I can't really say anything about AI writing or stuff like that, but I would just continue doing whatever I was, you can't change mfs these days even if you changed lots of stuff and made it more understandable. Their first impression was that they didn't like it, so they wouldn't even bother to reread it.

I already have a problem with that, in fact is so bad that right now I am working in relaunch just to get clean reviews that doesn't preconceived new readers in think the novel is trash

 

[Xcalibur_Xc]

I know we live in a very sensitive time with the rise of AI, the theft of creativity, the theft of artistic jobs and all that, blah blah blah.

What I have also noticed lately is the paranoia of readers about whether what they are consuming is also being generated by an AI. Which is good in a way, I understand their concern.

But calling anything generated by AI like a human machine gun has its problems too.

The paranoia about AI-generated content has reached the point where some readers do not believe that what you write is original unless you show it on paper.

On other sites, several readers have marked my work on my novel as AI-generated. A 280-chapter novel, set in a world with its own lore, with elements of both fantasy and science fiction, with a long-term narrative. Where one arc is about a coup in the Botswana region and the interference of first world powers in weak countries, while the next arc is a parody of the typical Isekai adventure, only to end up in a dark and gothic fantasy world. Doing all that and planning it to make sense, with a bunch of secondary characters with their developments and hints of possible plot twists several chapters ahead.

And it's labeled as having been created by ChatGPT in an afternoon..... come on....guys

I even started publishing my novel in 2020, before all this started.

The date of the first chapter is there.

Welcome to the reality.

 

[Corty]

Just tell them to replicate it then. That is the easiest way to shut down people.

 

[BearlyAlive]

Easy solution: Don't write, don't post. Tell the readers they can get their stories from ChatGPT themselves if they really want to read AI Chapters

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

I know we live in a very sensitive time with the rise of AI, the theft of creativity, the theft of artistic jobs and all that, blah blah blah.

What I have also noticed lately is the paranoia of readers about whether what they are consuming is also being generated by an AI. Which is good in a way, I understand their concern.

But calling anything generated by AI like a human machine gun has its problems too.

The paranoia about AI-generated content has reached the point where some readers do not believe that what you write is original unless you show it on paper.

On other sites, several readers have marked my work on my novel as AI-generated. A 280-chapter novel, set in a world with its own lore, with elements of both fantasy and science fiction, with a long-term narrative. Where one arc is about a coup in the Botswana region and the interference of first world powers in weak countries, while the next arc is a parody of the typical Isekai adventure, only to end up in a dark and gothic fantasy world. Doing all that and planning it to make sense, with a bunch of secondary characters with their developments and hints of possible plot twists several chapters ahead.

And it's labeled as having been created by ChatGPT in an afternoon..... come on....guys

I even started publishing my novel in 2020, before all this started.

The date of the first chapter is there.

I can see why it was labelled as such.

 

[greyblob]

that's life

 

[TheEldritchGod]

Here's the problem.

THERE IS NO AI.

The bots are BOTS. Not AI.

The bots are just about as good as they are going to get. It looks like if we used every computer on the planet linked together, the bots will not get such smarter. As it stands, the bot tech is just about maxed out. Yes, it's a wonderful tool, but it's just that.

A tool

 

[TheKillingAlice]

I know we live in a very sensitive time with the rise of AI, the theft of creativity, the theft of artistic jobs and all that, blah blah blah.

What I have also noticed lately is the paranoia of readers about whether what they are consuming is also being generated by an AI. Which is good in a way, I understand their concern.

But calling anything generated by AI like a human machine gun has its problems too.

The paranoia about AI-generated content has reached the point where some readers do not believe that what you write is original unless you show it on paper.

On other sites, several readers have marked my work on my novel as AI-generated. A 280-chapter novel, set in a world with its own lore, with elements of both fantasy and science fiction, with a long-term narrative. Where one arc is about a coup in the Botswana region and the interference of first world powers in weak countries, while the next arc is a parody of the typical Isekai adventure, only to end up in a dark and gothic fantasy world. Doing all that and planning it to make sense, with a bunch of secondary characters with their developments and hints of possible plot twists several chapters ahead.

And it's labeled as having been created by ChatGPT in an afternoon..... come on....guys

I even started publishing my novel in 2020, before all this started.

The date of the first chapter is there.

WTF.
But in my opinion, that's relatively close to the fact that you have to mark your content as AI generated if you so much as use a service to check your spelling and wording, if it's run by ai. Like, story is yours, written by you, edited and rounded up by you, but you get hints on how to change or what to change in your wording that you may or may not take up on, or change but differently, and it's somehow AI generated? I read through all of that out of curiosity when I signed up on Royal Road, and that's what it sounds like at least.

Here's the problem.

THERE IS NO AI.

The bots are BOTS. Not AI.

The bots are just about as good as they are going to get. It looks like if we used every computer on the planet linked together, the bots will not get such smarter. As it stands, the bot tech is just about maxed out. Yes, it's a wonderful tool, but it's just that.

A tool

Right? We still haven't actually created real AI. It is not capable of truly learning on its own. It may take information and work based on that, but that's like putting it in there.
It's not capable of thought. It won't be able to come to conclusions. That's why "AI" can't do hands.

 

[SailusGebel]

And it's labeled as having been created by ChatGPT in an afternoon..... come on....guys

If it's a review report it. Tony will delete it.

 

[hat]

Oh, when I read the forum title I thought this would be the other way around - as a useless reader, there have been a few books (like four or five) that I liked the premise/storybeats of but gave them up due to the prose seeming very generated.
I pretty much use gpt instead of Google now, especially for learning common-sense verifiable stuff, so I'm really familiar with the way text gets generated. Sometimes I'll get the strong impression a story was fed through gpt to improve/rework the language (typically after a chapter or two), and I find myself having difficulties enjoying the book from then on. I don't really know why this occurs; I have enjoyed mtl and, in the past, read a book by translating using gpt in particular (though I've sort of floated back to Google translate - trading off eloquence for confidence that what I'm reading is whats actually happening in the story was worth it haha).

From self-introspection performed on the spot, my guess would be that it's that those stories are 'uncanny valleying' my preferences in prose. Like, I'm fine reading plain or even grammatically compromised stuff, but I really like stuff that's nice and fancy with like nice word choice and stuff and when I find a book with signs of more literaryness, I engage more with the text and look for wordplay/elegent phrasing more diligently. I guess generated prose only has a facade of depth though, so once I start doing that I just end up really bothered, like taking time to admire the nice bricklaying on a bridge and realizing they're placed in the wrong way. Like, with most books I'd just admire the structure of the building, but the fanciness veneer from ai augmentation has me reading more closely where I otherwise wouldn't, looking at the individual bricks to my own enjoyment's detriment.

But yea, I suppose ai gen stuff doesn't bother me from a level of principles, and I suppose my ai paranoia really kicks in where I wonder if what I described above is accurate. Did I drop those books because they had me looking for depth where there was none or were they just someone writing in an awkward title? Given their popularity and my initial enjoyment of the stories, I'd guess the prior but it has me worried. Like, I don't want to have condemned an entire writing style to unenjoyment but I legitimately can't read them without seeing the ghost of gpt. Sorry, I know this isn't entirely related but once I read the thread title I wanted to share.

 

[TsuruI_am_a_bot]

I know we live in a very sensitive time with the rise of AI, the theft of creativity, the theft of artistic jobs and all that, blah blah blah.

What I have also noticed lately is the paranoia of readers about whether what they are consuming is also being generated by an AI. Which is good in a way, I understand their concern.

But calling anything generated by AI like a human machine gun has its problems too.

The paranoia about AI-generated content has reached the point where some readers do not believe that what you write is original unless you show it on paper.

On other sites, several readers have marked my work on my novel as AI-generated. A 280-chapter novel, set in a world with its own lore, with elements of both fantasy and science fiction, with a long-term narrative. Where one arc is about a coup in the Botswana region and the interference of first world powers in weak countries, while the next arc is a parody of the typical Isekai adventure, only to end up in a dark and gothic fantasy world. Doing all that and planning it to make sense, with a bunch of secondary characters with their developments and hints of possible plot twists several chapters ahead.

And it's labeled as having been created by ChatGPT in an afternoon..... come on....guys

I even started publishing my novel in 2020, before all this started.

The date of the first chapter is there.

1) The website where you posted is moronic
2) The readers are moronic (i like that one of my fav chinese author once dissed them/ranted with lot of examples) (Edit : not his own readers/fans but "readers in general nowadays". Explaining the problem of the situation for authors and the morosity of readers unlike previous readers)
3) The readers are moronic EVEN MORE since corona (normies entered internet even faster, AND CRAZOES)

Also even if you could confront ALL and EACH of this morons that reported your work as "AI"
A) They wont say sorry (this word is extinct)
B) They would go full defensive like a twitter man
C) Even if wrong, will divert that its not their fault / giving Mitigating circumstances or factors
D) They could say it was a joke (with a annoying tone/style of speech-writing)
E) They could toxicly say you are creepy confronting them (like a twitter man or Tiktoker), portraying you as THE BAD GUY
F) Respect is dead on internet
G) I wonder what happened to catholism in 2024 with the old teaching like : Dont do to others what you dont want others to do to you
H) Tiktok and socials burned brains of people (especially GenZ. THAT STREAM ILLEGAL ACTS and NOT PUNISHED)
I) But to tldr everything about this readers AND internet(now):

PS : heck even china internet seems safer. Because they suffered this "toxic period" soon than us, hence now in "recuperation" or users sticking together to help against trolls/toxicity. And at least the CCP censor the overlyBS unlike twitter.

 

[ArtBusterBeeze]

It's sad to see you targeted like this. You don't deserve some of the hate your Novel gets , you really don't, but it is what you have to deal with unfortunately. You have crafted your chapters, over 200 and they want to target you with this? That's crazy. People are so worried, they already resorted to this. I don't think some of them fully grasp the situation and they can only 'think' they do and draw conclusions with judgmental attitudes. Planning out Arcs for us is hard to do sometimes. It takes thought and understanding about where to go next with the story and how to have it fit like a piece of a sculpture. Doing what they are doing now is only complicating things further for Authors who already have it hard. Some have to work shifts to sustain themselves and then they write like for 8 hours. This would not be what that Author wants to hear after trying so hard to make something great.

 

[TheKillingAlice]

G) I wonder what happened to catholism in 2024 with the old teaching like : Dont do to others what you dont want others to do to you

It's used as the butt of every joke, because people are afraid of extending that same criticism to other religions. And I say that, though I'm an atheist and quite blasphemous by nature.

Jokes aside, your post was a fun read.

 

[KoyukiMegumi]

I guess this is something of the future that will soon be arriving on everyone's doorsteps. Everything will be "AI" because some humans can't think for themselves and think others can't either. However, trolls will be trolls. Take pride in what you make and ignore the ones lacking brain cells who think "AI" can write everything for us.

"AI" is nothing but a tool at the moment. They can write, but that doesn't mean it will be compelling or convey the thought you're trying to show. Heck, I'm pretty sure academic writing can be poop if a human doesn't look through it. I wouldn't know; I never used "AI" to write anything for me besides Grammarly's helpful grammar suggestions.

To see a fellow author targeted just because a brainless person can't have rational thoughts alone saddens me. I hope the support system on those sites can help you take those ignorant trolls down. Have faith that those aren't all the readers in the world, and there will be those who thank you for your hard work.

That may be by just lurking in the shadows or showing it off!

 

[Reinaislost]

This is a problem for the reader as much as it is for the author, though I imagine the experience to be far worse on the author side of things.

For the sake of faithfulness, I think it is good manners if authors disclose whether their work uses AI in some manner, be it generated or assisted, and doing so avoids the worst of the accusatory bunch. As a reader who is not appreciative of AI writing in general, it is a cause for concern for how prominent it seems to be nowadays. The paranoia had made it easier than ever to point at a piece and accuse it, and sometimes unjustly so, as in the case with you.
I've taken a glance at your work; I don't believe it resembles AI generated by a large margin. If they were unfaithful, then it could be. This is the second part of the problem. Readers can easily feel entitled, and some can be downright toxic and pushy. I, for one, don't know the cure for this, but I'd like to believe most are simply misguided rather than out of malice.