Genres Targeting a Certain Audience

[NiQuinn]

Because of this:

Shounen, Mature, or Adult?

How do you categorize the stories into those genre? Is it related to how one portray relationships, social issues, or realism?

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I realized that some terms like Shounen, Shoujo, Josei, etc might put off certain potential writers since those terms are more for Asian readers/writers. Personally I don't mind. I grew up reading manga and anime. However, is there a need to change it? Or, maybe add genres? I'd say nah since that seems overkill. I just wanted to know what y'all think.

 

[BenJepheneT]

Or maybe have this little window pop up when you scroll over the genre stating what the hell it means.

Same goes to Dark Fantasy or Cyberpunk. Up till today I STILL SEE FUCKERS MESSING UP SCI FI AND CYBERPUNK

 

[NiQuinn]

I STILL SEE FUCKERS MESSING UP SCI FI AND CYBERPUNK

SACRILEGE.

Or maybe have this little window pop up when you scroll over the genre stating what the hell it means

I actually posted that as a feature request. It would save a lot of trouble for sure. Not to mention time.

 

[ZynGrand]

SCI FI AND CYBERPUNK

What's the difference between the two?

Sci Fi is high tech in general, right?

I've heard of cyberpunk before, but don't really know what it is. Is it like dystopian sci Fi?

Or is high tech steampunk?

Or is it something else?

 

[BenJepheneT]

What's the difference between the two?

Sci Fi is high tech in general, right?

I've heard of cyberpunk before, but don't really know what it is. Is it like dystopian sci Fi?

Or is high tech steampunk?

Or is it something else?

Sci Fi is exactly as it states. Science Fiction. It's fake science. Science that doesn't make sense but has continuity and adhers to the established narrative rules.

Cyberpunk is basically the gettho but it's put in a futuristic setting. It's meant to display poverty and poor shit through futuristic lens.

 

[NiQuinn]

What's the difference between the two?

Sci Fi is high tech in general, right?

I've heard of cyberpunk before, but don't really know what it is. Is it like dystopian sci Fi?

Or is high tech steampunk?

Or is it something else?

Well.....if we're being technical about it, it's sci fi. It used to be a genre under sci fi anyway. But now, it's its own beast.

It's basically a futuristic setting where technology prevails despite lawlessness and an overly opressed society. Think, Blade Runner, Johnny Mnemonic, Total Recall, The Matrix, Ghost in the Shell, Appleseed, Psycho Pass, and Alita Battle Angel.

 

[AliceShiki]

Because of this:

Shounen, Mature, or Adult?

How do you categorize the stories into those genre? Is it related to how one portray relationships, social issues, or realism?

forum.scribblehub.com

I realized that some terms like Shounen, Shoujo, Josei, etc might put off certain potential writers since those terms are more for Asian readers/writers. Personally I don't mind. I grew up reading manga and anime. However, is there a need to change it? Or, maybe add genres? I'd say nah since that seems overkill. I just wanted to know what y'all think.

Ah, I don't think it's a real issue, I mean... Most of those are pretty well known~

Having an explanatory tooltip would be nice though~

Or maybe have this little window pop up when you scroll over the genre stating what the hell it means.

Same goes to Dark Fantasy or Cyberpunk. Up till today I STILL SEE FUCKERS MESSING UP SCI FI AND CYBERPUNK

In all honesty, I had no clue what the difference was before I read this thread.

Sci Fi is exactly as it states. Science Fiction. It's fake science. Science that doesn't make sense but has continuity and adhers to the established narrative rules.

Cyberpunk is basically the gettho but it's put in a futuristic setting. It's meant to display poverty and poor shit through futuristic lens.

Oooooh, I see I see~

Well.....if we're being technical about it, it's sci fi. It used to be a genre under sci fi anyway. But now, it's its own beast.

It's basically a futuristic setting where technology prevails despite lawlessness and an overly opressed society. Think, Blade Runner, Johnny Mnemonic, Total Recall, The Matrix, Ghost in the Shell, Appleseed, Psycho Pass, and Alita Battle Angel.

Wait, Matrix is Cyberpunk?

... Tbh, I still don't get the difference, I have no clue how Matrix is not Sci-fi.

 

[NiQuinn]

Wait, Matrix is Cyberpunk?

... Tbh, I still don't get the difference, I have no clue how Matrix is not Sci-fi.

To be fair, someone described The Matrix as this:

The Matrix films are absolutely cyberpunk. They're also sci-fi, mecha, kung-fu, live-action anime, parable, post-apocalypse, and deeply philosophical.

There's even a supernatural aspect of it what with people worshipping Neo as, THE ONE. Take your pick. All I can really say about it is, the first movie was awesome but the rest was 'meh'

Edit: Spiritual. I meant spiritual not supernatural.

 

[Mejiro]

Cyberpunk is awkward, because a lot of the original tech has become utterly normal - having access to what is actually amazingly good tech, despite living in a ghetto, is pretty normal, a smartphone is an amazing device that can do all kinds of stuff and is utterly, utterly mundane. Similarly, having long-term relationships with, basically, some rando on the Internet and using that for jobs, to socialise, whatever, is again, utterly normal, as is corporations having vast amounts of power, massive wealth inequality and so forth. But cyberpunk is, very broadly, near-future street level SF -so Neuromancer, one of the very first cyberpunk stories, is about a burnt out hacker getting hooked in for 'one last job' and then dealing with the mega-ultra-rich, making deals with various gangs and other groups and so on. A lot is aesthethic - mirrorshades and trenchcoats is probably cyberpunk, especially if there's some kind of full-immersion computing stuff.

 

[BenJepheneT]

A lot is aesthethic - mirrorshades and trenchcoats is probably cyberpunk, especially if there's some kind of full-immersion computing stuff.

I kinda hate how Cyberpunk today is being treated more as an aesthetic and less of a meaningful view of the future and humanism. No matter how far we develop our technology we still remain the shitty people we are.

 

[BenJepheneT]

the first movie was awesome but the rest was 'meh'

I liked the whole trilogy though. Objectively it's a downfall but speaking from personal experience it's an escalating thrill ride.

 

[Mejiro]

I kinda hate how Cyberpunk today is being treated more as an aesthetic and less of a meaningful view of the future and humanism. No matter how far we develop our technology we still remain the shitty people we are.

Cyberpunk's basically techno-thrillers (for the cool tech side) and gritty social stuff (for the, well, society side). Gibson's been writing modern-day low-action tech thrillers for years, because cyberpunk is pretty much what we've actually got, we just don't have much of the cool tech that goes along with it. 'The street finds it's own use for things' is an online news article about, I dunno, smartphone apps being used in the third world for microloans or someone making a generator powered by crap discarded by the first world or something, rather than a view of the future.

 

[BenJepheneT]

smartphone apps being used in the third world for microloans or someone making a generator powered by crap discarded by the first world or something, rather than a view of the future.

ain't that a view of the future in its own?

 

[Mcoorlim]

Can't have cyberpunk without the punk. That's both an aesthetic and an ethos.

 

[Mejiro]

ain't that a view of the future in its own?

I'm not sure if 'stuff that is actually happening' really counts as 'a view of the future'. It's like how a modern smartphone makes a lot of the ultra-tech Star Trek communicators look shit - I have a device that costs relatively little, that lets me talk to most people on the planet, pull down huge amounts of information, send pictures and video across the planet, and do all sorts of other stuff. Compare with a communicator, that allows speech and maybe video.

 

[BenJepheneT]

Compare with a communicator, that allows speech and maybe video.

but shit has unlimited coverage, and can, on some shows, allow holographic imagery.

who knows, maybe they can implement 4K tiddy bars but the budget just wouldn't allow cause they're all clowns