Is it common for people to see prostitutes?

[CupcakeNinja]

I have to wonder how those things happen... Like... Why did she invite people that she didn't trust to her party? To the point they not only filmed it, but also sent it to her fiance when they knew he wasn't fine with this kind of thing?

Like, geez, think a bit before inviting people that don't care for your well-being to your party.

... Though I have to wonder what goes on the mind of someone about to get married that decides to have sex with a stripper... Like... Do you have no commitment to your fiance or something?

And this one... Like, didn't she know that the her boyfriend's sister was there? Like... Geez, are you stupid? You're already cheating on him, but you'll also do it in front of his sister? So you're not only immoral, but also stupid... Geez...

Well i assume the alcohol makes people even more stupid. I mean these aren't situations you would usually find yourself in when your inhibitions are on full dosplay, you know? Also the sister being there was a coincidence. She lived in another city but apparently she got invited for a party that was gonna happen and it turned out the party was the ex-soon-to-be sister in law's.

Lots of these stories i just hear second hand too. People where i used to live are pretty wild.

My sister's boyfriend, for example, got stabbed by his own dad because the dad thought the son was flirting or maybe even fucking hi, the dad's, girlfriend or whatever she was.

And i mean damn. Thats some stupid fucked up shit.

 

[ohko]

Well i assume the alcohol makes people even more stupid. I mean these aren't situations you would usually find yourself in when your inhibitions are on full dosplay, you know? Also the sister being there was a coincidence. She lived in another city but apparently she got invited for a party that was gonna happen and it turned out the party was the ex-soon-to-be sister in law's.

Lots of these stories i just hear second hand too. People where i used to live are pretty wild.

My sister's boyfriend, for example, got stabbed by his own dad because the dad thought the son was flirting or maybe even fucking hi, the dad's, girlfriend or whatever she was.

And i mean damn. Thats some stupid fucked up shit.

My life sounds spectacularly dull in comparison

 

[Vaerama]

My life sounds spectacularly dull in comparison

That is not a bad thing ^___^ A 'dull' life is a life with security. People who live exciting lives are usually absent that... which puts them in the kinds of situations where crazy stuff happens around them, which keeps things from calming down, which repeats in this pattern until someone has a 'dull life' and can retell the crazy stuff, or ends in the person being talked about by other people who manage to have a 'dull life' and can retell that person's crazy exploits.

I have to wonder how those things happen... Like... Why did she invite people that she didn't trust to her party? To the point they not only filmed it, but also sent it to her fiance when they knew he wasn't fine with this kind of thing?

Like, geez, think a bit before inviting people that don't care for your well-being to your party.

... Though I have to wonder what goes on the mind of someone about to get married that decides to have sex with a stripper... Like... Do you have no commitment to your fiance or something?

And this one... Like, didn't she know that the her boyfriend's sister was there? Like... Geez, are you stupid? You're already cheating on him, but you'll also do it in front of his sister? So you're not only immoral, but also stupid... Geez...

It's more than just the alcohol... there's a certain element of the human psyche that becomes less and less inhibited when surrounded by people (hormones > deeper function... love doesn't only make us blind: it makes us stupid too), and so it goes that some of the most spectacularly idiotic things happen to those who get carried away with the 'atmosphere'.

Obviously, the alcohol is huge though. I've done some things while under its influence that I'd never have done without it. It makes 3 of my top 5 regrets. Draws the blood to certain places, takes off the brakes: people just aren't the same when they're drunk, and when they're drunk and surrounded by a bunch of people egging-on/sending-them-reward-hormones for their worst behaviors.... it shouldn't be too surprising when some people give into them entirely.

That said... why anyone would choose to marry someone irresponsible enough to have 'bachelor/ette' parties: I can only attribute to the insanity that is love, at least where it intersects with lust :D People like that've gotta be pretty freaky, right? >__>

If you were aware that someone was doing that kind of thing (because you were present at the party, and you happened to know the people involved), would you not choose to tell the husband/wife to be? I mean, morally speaking, I don't really care if someone who wants to be irresponsible goes and does that stuff... but if I know some other poor person might not know about this kind of behavior and is about to tie the knot with them: it seems only the responsible thing to do to tell them.

Luckily for me, I'm not so morally upright as to keep track of other people's dreadful decisions.... but if I was: I'd absolutely be 'tattling'.

 

[CupcakeNinja]

My life sounds spectacularly dull in comparison

Eh. Some people just live in wilder neighborhoods. Natives americans and Mexicans are crazy, all im gonna say.

 

[BenJepheneT]

Why squid, out of curiosity?

Uhhhh

@CupcakeNinja help me out here

 

[Thor]

oh this is another question, but before weed was legalized in some places... where did people get their drugs? How did people magically know who to talk to in order to acquire it? Is it just word-of-mouth?

Word of mouth in general. Someone alway knows someone who has access :S To get some of the really illegal stuff I only have to call friends who know even more shady friends. ;)

Regarding Bachelor parties... Uhn... AFAIK they aren't even a thing over here tbh. People are usually pretty excited about their own marriage party, especially because those already cost a ton of money... They can't really afford to make yet another party to celebrate the end of their bachelor life or whatever... Like, geez, my cousin paid 20,000.00 USD in his marriage party, and my local currency is 5x weaker than USD... You really think he had enough money for a bachelor party? I can assure you he did not.

Here in germany the best man does the planning and the people who are attending pay for it. The sole duty of the guy who gets married is to be there. No one can expect the one who is already spending 10-50k € for his marriage to pay for more :P

It happens alot. But sometimes the people hiring the stripper get carried away. I know a girl who had her engagement called off cuz a video of her and her bridesmaid fucking the male stripper they hired for their bachelorette party got circled around.

That is a level of stupidity I have never heard of before. Atleast her ex-fiance got spared from more disappointment in the future.

It's more than just the alcohol... there's a certain element of the human psyche that becomes less and less inhibited when surrounded by people (hormones > deeper function... love doesn't only make us blind: it makes us stupid too), and so it goes that some of the most spectacularly idiotic things happen to those who get carried away with the 'atmosphere'.

Obviously, the alcohol is huge though. I've done some things while under its influence that I'd never have done without it. It makes 3 of my top 5 regrets. Draws the blood to certain places, takes off the brakes: people just aren't the same when they're drunk, and when they're drunk and surrounded by a bunch of people egging-on/sending-them-reward-hormones for their worst behaviors.... it shouldn't be too surprising when some people give into them entirely.

Is it really possible to just blame the alcohol and the group? I think it also depends on the person. I know that I have said or done things, I normally wouldnt have, under influence but there was always a limit to that. Never done anything I absolutely shouldnt have.

That said... why anyone would choose to marry someone irresponsible enough to have 'bachelor/ette' parties: I can only attribute to the insanity that is love, at least where it intersects with lust :D People like that've gotta be pretty freaky, right? >__>

It is not like the bachelor/ette parties are in itself irresponsible. From where I come from its the best excuse to have an amazing evening/weekend with all your best friends because everyone will make sure to be there and its planned months in advance. Something like that isnt possible for us normally because of family/work and life in general. If at some point, the men or women of the night, should start to do something he/she cant take back because of reasons unknown, it is the responsibility of the people who are there to stop them and not encourage them.

I would also like to point out, for people who are reading this thread, that stripper are not the same as prostitutes, atleast here in germany. Dont get the wrong image and compare a strip club with a brothel. Even if you hire them privately, they are only stripper, so dont get ideas.

 

[AliceShiki]

She lived in another city but apparently she got invited for a party that was gonna happen and it turned out the party was the ex-soon-to-be sister in law's.

... I was going to make a comment about how would someone get invited to a bacherolette party, but...

Then I remembered that one of my mom's closest friends got invited to her marriage party, and that was the first time she ever saw him. Some of her friends were giving a hike to the guy and decided to invite him on a whim to her marriage party because they were going to it too...

So... I guess I can see that happening, though it is still mindblowing to me to have a party that you don't know everyone that is attending...

My sister's boyfriend, for example, got stabbed by his own dad because the dad thought the son was flirting or maybe even fucking hi, the dad's, girlfriend or whatever she was.

Holy... Gosh, you knew some crazy people...

My life sounds spectacularly dull in comparison

*hugs* Dull comrades! \(^^)/

That is not a bad thing ^___^ A 'dull' life is a life with security. People who live exciting lives are usually absent that... which puts them in the kinds of situations where crazy stuff happens around them, which keeps things from calming down, which repeats in this pattern until someone has a 'dull life' and can retell the crazy stuff, or ends in the person being talked about by other people who manage to have a 'dull life' and can retell that person's crazy exploits.


It's more than just the alcohol... there's a certain element of the human psyche that becomes less and less inhibited when surrounded by people (hormones > deeper function... love doesn't only make us blind: it makes us stupid too), and so it goes that some of the most spectacularly idiotic things happen to those who get carried away with the 'atmosphere'.

Obviously, the alcohol is huge though. I've done some things while under its influence that I'd never have done without it. It makes 3 of my top 5 regrets. Draws the blood to certain places, takes off the brakes: people just aren't the same when they're drunk, and when they're drunk and surrounded by a bunch of people egging-on/sending-them-reward-hormones for their worst behaviors.... it shouldn't be too surprising when some people give into them entirely.

That said... why anyone would choose to marry someone irresponsible enough to have 'bachelor/ette' parties: I can only attribute to the insanity that is love, at least where it intersects with lust :D People like that've gotta be pretty freaky, right? >__>

If you were aware that someone was doing that kind of thing (because you were present at the party, and you happened to know the people involved), would you not choose to tell the husband/wife to be? I mean, morally speaking, I don't really care if someone who wants to be irresponsible goes and does that stuff... but if I know some other poor person might not know about this kind of behavior and is about to tie the knot with them: it seems only the responsible thing to do to tell them.

Luckily for me, I'm not so morally upright as to keep track of other people's dreadful decisions.... but if I was: I'd absolutely be 'tattling'.

I honestly dunno what I'd do in this situation, but well, I'd never attend one of those parties either, so I probably wouldn't even get to know those things happened...

But yeah, it does seems fair to tell the other party for sure.

Here in germany the best man does the planning and the people who are attending pay for it. The sole duty of the guy who gets married is to be there. No one can expect the one who is already spending 10-50k € for his marriage to pay for more :P

Ah, that's a lot more reasonable~

... Over here that would never work though, nobody would want to pay for it! XD

It is not like the bachelor/ette parties are in itself irresponsible. From where I come from its the best excuse to have an amazing evening/weekend with all your best friends because everyone will make sure to be there and its planned months in advance. Something like that isnt possible for us normally because of family/work and life in general. If at some point, the men or women of the night, should start to do something he/she cant take back because of reasons unknown, it is the responsibility of the people who are there to stop them and not encourage them.

Oh, that's a pretty nice mindset to have, it can be a good party then~

 

[CupcakeNinja]

... I was going to make a comment about how would someone get invited to a bacherolette party, but...

Then I remembered that one of my mom's closest friends got invited to her marriage party, and that was the first time she ever saw him. Some of her friends were giving a hike to the guy and decided to invite him on a whim to her marriage party because they were going to it too...

So... I guess I can see that happening, though it is still mindblowing to me to have a party that you don't know everyone that is attending...
Holy... Gosh, you knew some crazy people...
*hugs* Dull comrades! \(^^)/
I honestly dunno what I'd do in this situation, but well, I'd never attend one of those parties either, so I probably wouldn't even get to know those things happened...

But yeah, it does seems fair to tell the other party for sure.

Ah, that's a lot more reasonable~

... Over here that would never work though, nobody would want to pay for it! XD
Oh, that's a pretty nice mindset to have, it can be a good party then~

Eh. Some parties like this are more private but some are a bit more open and if you know enough people and they invite their own friends...well. Coincidences happen.

Word of mouth in general. Someone alway knows someone who has access :S To get some of the really illegal stuff I only have to call friends who know even more shady friends. ;)




Here in germany the best man does the planning and the people who are attending pay for it. The sole duty of the guy who gets married is to be there. No one can expect the one who is already spending 10-50k € for his marriage to pay for more :P




That is a level of stupidity I have never heard of before. Atleast her ex-fiance got spared from more disappointment in the future.




Is it really possible to just blame the alcohol and the group? I think it also depends on the person. I know that I have said or done things, I normally wouldnt have, under influence but there was always a limit to that. Never done anything I absolutely shouldnt have.




It is not like the bachelor/ette parties are in itself irresponsible. From where I come from its the best excuse to have an amazing evening/weekend with all your best friends because everyone will make sure to be there and its planned months in advance. Something like that isnt possible for us normally because of family/work and life in general. If at some point, the men or women of the night, should start to do something he/she cant take back because of reasons unknown, it is the responsibility of the people who are there to stop them and not encourage them.

I would also like to point out, for people who are reading this thread, that stripper are not the same as prostitutes, atleast here in germany. Dont get the wrong image and compare a strip club with a brothel. Even if you hire them privately, they are only stripper, so dont get ideas.

Happens more often than you think. For example most porn videos of bachelorette parties arent scripted.

People and alcohol just dont lead to good decision making. Course you are prolly a bit scummy to begin with if you do something so extreme.

Uhhhh

@CupcakeNinja help me out here

@ohko vaginal odor. Diseases. Only the classier brothels or more responsible pimps have their girls get checked regularly. The REALY swanky ones even give the girls flavored powder rouge (also called blush. A skin cosmetic) for their breasts and whatnot.

Flavored condoms, even.

 

[AliceShiki]

Eh. Some parties like this are more private but some are a bit more open and if you know enough people and they invite their own friends...well. Coincidences happen.

Aye, I can imagine they can happen, but... Welp, I dunno, it just feels weird to invite someone to a party if you're not the host I guess~

Happens more often than you think. For example most porn videos of bachelorette parties arent scripted.

People and alcohol just dont lead to good decision making. Course you are prolly a bit scummy to begin with if you do something so extreme.

What surprises me about this comment is that there are enough porn videos of those parties to the point you can talk about "most of them".

I mean... Geez, you're about to get married, how about your party without getting naked... Geez.

 

[ChronicleCrawler]

Also, have you been clubbing? @ohko has never been clubbing. Is it true that there are tons of drugs at night clubs?
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I'm sorry but I'm too pure to understand that. Cough.. I'm the same, I've never been to any places like that.

 

[Vaerama]

Is it really possible to just blame the alcohol and the group? I think it also depends on the person. I know that I have said or done things, I normally wouldnt have, under influence but there was always a limit to that. Never done anything I absolutely shouldnt have.

It is not like the bachelor/ette parties are in itself irresponsible. From where I come from its the best excuse to have an amazing evening/weekend with all your best friends because everyone will make sure to be there and its planned months in advance. Something like that isnt possible for us normally because of family/work and life in general. If at some point, the men or women of the night, should start to do something he/she cant take back because of reasons unknown, it is the responsibility of the people who are there to stop them and not encourage them.

I would also like to point out, for people who are reading this thread, that stripper are not the same as prostitutes, atleast here in germany. Dont get the wrong image and compare a strip club with a brothel. Even if you hire them privately, they are only stripper, so dont get ideas.

It absolutely is the fault of the person(s) involved... but the only limit is how affected a person can be made until they’ve hit blackout. Drugs have an incredible effect on a person, because we’re fundementally biological ‘machines’: we have processes which can be interrupted and changed even when they most certainly shouldn’t be messed with.

Where you start at helps, but we are all ‘human’ underneath our veneer of morality and personality. There is a point where a person cannot and should not trust their own judgement, and as you say: other people should be trying to guide us better. However, we absolutely can manage how irresponsible we decide to be at the start.

The only difference between a stripper and a prostitute is how much you’re paying them :) Being a stripper _without also_ being a prostitute is just so silly: most strippers are not fiscally stable from the start, and exhibitionism is a drive that can fuel incredible satisfaction from resulting additional employment... and it’s an excellent way to not only advertise but vet: you put yourself in a position to compare potential clientele.

Stripping in the right place while being attractive is like being an escort: the person in question *will* receive dividends if they price themselves right.

 

[Mejiro]

It used to be a lot more common - some reports from the time put 20% of the female population of London in the late 1800's as having engaged in prostitution at least once (even if you adjust for very different sexual mores and standards, it's still going to be a lot - when it's a choice between 'sleeping on the streets and risking mugging/rape' or 'do something to get enough to get a room for the night', then a lot of people are going to go for choice 2) If you go further back, then it becomes even more standard, especially for men - going out and having sex with prostitutes and/or servants/staff was just what people did, it's comparatively recent for it to be super-rare. And even today, most towns and cities are going to have prostitutes, they'll just be at least vaguely undercover - massage parlours, modelling agencies, or just knowing someone who knows someone (and I'm assuming websites and stuff).

Drugs tend to be knowing the right (or wrong!) people - weed is common enough, and not really thought of as dangerous, that just asking around can work, unless your social group is very isolated. Harder stuff is probably going to be, well, harder to access, but once you know someone, then you can probably make more connections.

 

[Thor]

It absolutely is the fault of the person(s) involved... but the only limit is how affected a person can be made until they’ve hit blackout. Drugs have an incredible effect on a person, because we’re fundementally biological ‘machines’: we have processes which can be interrupted and changed even when they most certainly shouldn’t be messed with.

Where you start at helps, but we are all ‘human’ underneath our veneer of morality and personality. There is a point where a person cannot and should not trust their own judgement, and as you say: other people should be trying to guide us better. However, we absolutely can manage how irresponsible we decide to be at the start.

The only difference between a stripper and a prostitute is how much you’re paying them :) Being a stripper _without also_ being a prostitute is just so silly: most strippers are not fiscally stable from the start, and exhibitionism is a drive that can fuel incredible satisfaction from resulting additional employment... and it’s an excellent way to not only advertise but vet: you put yourself in a position to compare potential clientele.

Stripping in the right place while being attractive is like being an escort: the person in question *will* receive dividends if they price themselves right.

However, we absolutely can manage how irresponsible we decide to be at the start.

Thats probably what I wanted to say. Alcohol might be the catalyst but in the end it greatly depends on the person. Just wanted to point out that not everyone is prone to leave there morality and personality behind even if under influence and that is obviously only true until you hit the blackout zone.

I only experienced one blackout in my life and my actions after that only involved a grill, grill lighter liquid and a lot of fire and yelling from me. Of course I dont know if its true because it never happend in my opinion but my friends sometimes tell a story where I might have tried to summon something.

But back to this specific topic and pre-marriage parties. Honestly I wouldnt even know if sex would be possible if I had a blackout, having sex while drunk is already not very enjoyable. I think a gal who is in a state of blackout doesnt even make a concious decision and the whole thing would fall under rape imo. Something that gets discussed fairly often. If not blacked out, see above.

In regard to strippers, I think it depends on where you live. To be a stripper in germany is so much easier than to be a prostitute. To be a prostitute involves alot more bureaucracy. You need the right permits wich cost money, a dedicated workplace wich cost money, frequent health checks wich cost also money. Also there will be regular visits from the ministry of health to check if your workplace has everything necessary.

If you are a stripper you only need to register as a small business since there is nothing else involved. Additionally most stripper a fairly young and most of the time students who want to make a bit of extra money. If they earn too much, like you would as a prostitute, you would lose out on subsidies you get as a student.

So your choice would be either one or nothing, rarely both. Of course that doesnt mean its impossible to have sex with a stripper but that would be without compensation just because they are horny and want to have sex or they are somewhat 'shady'? Those who I have encountered and hired were pretty strict about what to expect and I speak from experience since I had the unfortunate honor to hire them but had the fortune to do small talk about life in general after they were done.

In any case, everything is possible, but we germans do love to adhere to our laws :P

Happens more often than you think. For example most porn videos of bachelorette parties arent scripted.

People and alcohol just dont lead to good decision making. Course you are prolly a bit scummy to begin with if you do something so extreme.

I think I need to research some bachelorette porn videos to come to a proper conclusion but it sounds kinda biased. Might be possible that the 'not scripted' party was scripted to appear not scripted :P

But yeah, you need to be scummy to begin with to do something that extreme

 

[AliceShiki]

However, we absolutely can manage how irresponsible we decide to be at the start.

Thats probably what I wanted to say. Alcohol might be the catalyst but in the end it greatly depends on the person. Just wanted to point out that not everyone is prone to leave there morality and personality behind even if under influence and that is obviously only true until you hit the blackout zone.

I only experienced one blackout in my life and my actions after that only involved a grill, grill lighter liquid and a lot of fire and yelling from me. Of course I dont know if its true because it never happend in my opinion but my friends sometimes tell a story where I might have tried to summon something.

But back to this specific topic and pre-marriage parties. Honestly I wouldnt even know if sex would be possible if I had a blackout, having sex while drunk is already not very enjoyable. I think a gal who is in a state of blackout doesnt even make a concious decision and the whole thing would fall under rape imo. Something that gets discussed fairly often. If not blacked out, see above.

In regard to strippers, I think it depends on where you live. To be a stripper in germany is so much easier than to be a prostitute. To be a prostitute involves alot more bureaucracy. You need the right permits wich cost money, a dedicated workplace wich cost money, frequent health checks wich cost also money. Also there will be regular visits from the ministry of health to check if your workplace has everything necessary.

If you are a stripper you only need to register as a small business since there is nothing else involved. Additionally most stripper a fairly young and most of the time students who want to make a bit of extra money. If they earn too much, like you would as a prostitute, you would lose out on subsidies you get as a student.

So your choice would be either one or nothing, rarely both. Of course that doesnt mean its impossible to have sex with a stripper but that would be without compensation just because they are horny and want to have sex or they are somewhat 'shady'? Those who I have encountered and hired were pretty strict about what to expect and I speak from experience since I had the unfortunate honor to hire them but had the fortune to do small talk about life in general after they were done.

In any case, everything is possible, but we germans do love to adhere to our laws :P



I think I need to research some bachelorette porn videos to come to a proper conclusion but it sounds kinda biased. Might be possible that the 'not scripted' party was scripted to appear not scripted :P

But yeah, you need to be scummy to begin with to do something that extreme

Well, I think in most countries, both strippers and prostitutes are not people that work legally, so the situation in Germany is quite the unique one.

I do think it's nice that they can work in those services legally though, it protects them and makes the job much safer.

 

[CupcakeNinja]

However, we absolutely can manage how irresponsible we decide to be at the start.

Thats probably what I wanted to say. Alcohol might be the catalyst but in the end it greatly depends on the person. Just wanted to point out that not everyone is prone to leave there morality and personality behind even if under influence and that is obviously only true until you hit the blackout zone.

I only experienced one blackout in my life and my actions after that only involved a grill, grill lighter liquid and a lot of fire and yelling from me. Of course I dont know if its true because it never happend in my opinion but my friends sometimes tell a story where I might have tried to summon something.

But back to this specific topic and pre-marriage parties. Honestly I wouldnt even know if sex would be possible if I had a blackout, having sex while drunk is already not very enjoyable. I think a gal who is in a state of blackout doesnt even make a concious decision and the whole thing would fall under rape imo. Something that gets discussed fairly often. If not blacked out, see above.

In regard to strippers, I think it depends on where you live. To be a stripper in germany is so much easier than to be a prostitute. To be a prostitute involves alot more bureaucracy. You need the right permits wich cost money, a dedicated workplace wich cost money, frequent health checks wich cost also money. Also there will be regular visits from the ministry of health to check if your workplace has everything necessary.

If you are a stripper you only need to register as a small business since there is nothing else involved. Additionally most stripper a fairly young and most of the time students who want to make a bit of extra money. If they earn too much, like you would as a prostitute, you would lose out on subsidies you get as a student.

So your choice would be either one or nothing, rarely both. Of course that doesnt mean its impossible to have sex with a stripper but that would be without compensation just because they are horny and want to have sex or they are somewhat 'shady'? Those who I have encountered and hired were pretty strict about what to expect and I speak from experience since I had the unfortunate honor to hire them but had the fortune to do small talk about life in general after they were done.

In any case, everything is possible, but we germans do love to adhere to our laws :P



I think I need to research some bachelorette porn videos to come to a proper conclusion but it sounds kinda biased. Might be possible that the 'not scripted' party was scripted to appear not scripted :P

But yeah, you need to be scummy to begin with to do something that extreme

Welp its just something i learned from an Askreddit post so takenwith a grain of salt but im inclined to believe in the idiocy of drunks with cameras

 

[Thor]

Well, I think in most countries, both strippers and prostitutes are not people that work legally, so the situation in Germany is quite the unique one.

I do think it's nice that they can work in those services legally though, it protects them and makes the job much safer.

Is it unique to germany? I never looked into the law of other countries but knew that prostitution is outright illegal in some. To be honest, before the specific laws were introduced in 2016 or 2017 it was more of a grey zone. Its possible that our government thought that if they cant prevent sex work they should regulate it and then tax it as much as possible.

But even if they thought only about that, the outcome is still most welcome. The sex-worker are safe and also the customer. Its funny how a mostly conservative party can still be very progressive.

Welp its just something i learned from an Askreddit post so takenwith a grain of salt but im inclined to believe in the idiocy of drunks with cameras

Thought so, but I have alot of salt, just in case :P

 

[AliceShiki]

Is it unique to germany? I never looked into the law of other countries but knew that prostitution is outright illegal in some. To be honest, before the specific laws were introduced in 2016 or 2017 it was more of a grey zone. Its possible that our government thought that if they cant prevent sex work they should regulate it and then tax it as much as possible.

But even if they thought only about that, the outcome is still most welcome. The sex-woker are safe and also the customer. Its funny how a mostly conservative party can still be very progressive.



Thought so, but I have alot of salt, just in case :P

Oh, it's definitely not unique to Germany! I'm sure I heard of a handful of other countries where it is legalized.

But in most countries it is illegal AFAIK.

In my country for example, it is illegal, though the prostitutes themselves are not fined if caught. The people that have to answer are the owners of the brothel and stuff like that.

As in, the enablers of the sex commerce, not the workers nor the clients.

The idea is that the country itself is against prostitution, but they don't wanna fine someone for trying to make a living by selling their own body and putting themselves in risk, since at the end of the day, they're only harming themselves for doing this... And it's mostly out of necessity.

Or at least, that's the official view.

 

[Vaerama]

Well, I think in most countries, both strippers and prostitutes are not people that work legally, so the situation in Germany is quite the unique one.

I do think it's nice that they can work in those services legally though, it protects them and makes the job much safer.

I’m just imagining paying *taxes* for prostitution.

Crap, too late, thor mentioned it while I was writing >__<

Germany is far from the only state in the region to have done ‘legal Prostitution’ in recent times, here’s a map: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_by_region

General picture: even where legal, being a prostitute for tender is... not the cleverest choice either men _or_ women can make. Best case: they make a reasonable nest egg over about a month, and then one of their richer/sexier clients marries them.

Always a chance that love’ll arose from having sex after all.

 

[AliceShiki]

I’m just imagining paying *taxes* for prostitution.

Crap, too late, thor mentioned it while I was writing >__<

Germany is far from the only state in the region to have done ‘legal Prostitution’ in recent times, here’s a map: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_by_region

General picture: even where legal, being a prostitute for tender is... not the cleverest choice either men _or_ women can make. Best case: they make a reasonable nest egg over about a month, and then one of their richer/sexier clients marries them.

Always a chance that love’ll arose from having sex after all.

Oh, wow, it's legal in far more countries than I imagined! >.<

I'm honestly surprised... And happy about it, at the very least it makes for a safer profession.

But I agree that it's not an ideal choice... But hey, at least it is better than having it as something illegal.

 

[Thor]

Oh, it's definitely not unique to Germany! I'm sure I heard of a handful of other countries where it is legalized.

But in most countries it is illegal AFAIK.

In my country for example, it is illegal, though the prostitutes themselves are not fined if caught. The people that have to answer are the owners of the brothel and stuff like that.

As in, the enablers of the sex commerce, not the workers nor the clients.

The idea is that the country itself is against prostitution, but they don't wanna fine someone for trying to make a living by selling their own body and putting themselves in risk, since at the end of the day, they're only harming themselves for doing this... And it's mostly out of necessity.

Or at least, that's the official view.

Where do you live if I may ask? Just to have some reference. On the surface it sounds nice that only the owner of the establishment has to answer but it also gives them a fixed amount of power over their workers. So even if there is a dispute between worker and customer, the owner has the last say.

’m just imagining paying *taxes* for prostitution.

Crap, too late, thor mentioned it while I was writing >__<

Germany is far from the only state in the region to have done ‘legal Prostitution’ in recent times, here’s a map: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_by_region

General picture: even where legal, being a prostitute for tender is... not the cleverest choice either men _or_ women can make. Best case: they make a reasonable nest egg over about a month, and then one of their richer/sexier clients marries them.

Always a chance that love’ll arose from having sex after all.

Oh yes, taxes. Nothing is free, not even your death :P

But its nice to know that my country is one of the most progressive ones. Never thought we would be unique. But its one of the reasons why I differentiate so much between strippers and prostitutes :P

Being a sex-worker for only a short amount of time to marry some rich/sexier client is still a dream in my opinion. Sounds like a fairy tale but it would be nice if it was reality. Selling your own body cant be nice even if you made your peace with it and enjoy it as much as possible in that situation.