People… :(

[SailusGebel]

The people that have the most to say often stay silent, and those that speak often have little to say. And that is not supposed to be a jab at Anon or Sailus.

Whenever I'm not goofing around and shitposting I don't write much, usually it's just yes\no. So I'm not sure how to react to this.

 

[Gibbs505]

Just heard a story from my Vietnamese friend today.
Apparently, a mother beat her daughter which caused her to commit suicide.

My friend translated a bunch of comments for me. After reading them, I couldn’t feel more disgusted.

The comments said they were beaten by their parents when they were young too but they didn’t commit suicide.

I couldn’t feel more horrible seeing those replies in the comment section of the post. I think my friend said it better than me. “They made it look like a competition.”

Is this for real?

Would they go to see someone died from a cold and showed off that they passed through covid without vaccine like some kind of flex too?
I mean discipline is needed when teaching your kids, but if your discipline caused your kid to commit suicide then something is not right with the way the parent educated her children. Your children don’t just suddenly kill themselves from a slap or a punch or a spanking. You need to do something very wrong or do something wrong in a prolonged period to accumulate and result in that consequence. Whatever the case, I think it’s not the occasion to make those aforementioned comment.

Is this just a cultural thing or am I overly sensitive?

This is a tragety and not as rare as it should be.
I was never abused at home but I know others who were. People are individuals and each reacts differently to such treatment.
No, its not cultural, its everywhere.

 

[TotallyHuman]

Just heard a story from my Vietnamese friend today.
Apparently, a mother beat her daughter which caused her to commit suicide.

My friend translated a bunch of comments for me. After reading them, I couldn’t feel more disgusted.

The comments said they were beaten by their parents when they were young too but they didn’t commit suicide.

I couldn’t feel more horrible seeing those replies in the comment section of the post. I think my friend said it better than me. “They made it look like a competition.”

Is this for real?

Would they go to see someone died from a cold and showed off that they passed through covid without vaccine like some kind of flex too?
I mean discipline is needed when teaching your kids, but if your discipline caused your kid to commit suicide then something is not right with the way the parent educated her children. Your children don’t just suddenly kill themselves from a slap or a punch or a spanking. You need to do something very wrong or do something wrong in a prolonged period to accumulate and result in that consequence. Whatever the case, I think it’s not the occasion to make those aforementioned comment.

Is this just a cultural thing or am I overly sensitive?

There is never a single side to any situation. We cannot say what really happened there.
I'd also comment that I didn't kill myself when I was physically punished in childhood - not because I disdain the girl, but because I would feel that someone might be using her death to push propoganda for a way to live.
I don't mean to say one should hit their kids, but it's the small things that snowball into big ones. Today they are implying that hitting one child caused the child to suicide, tomorrow someone will take your 8 year old and change their sex without your consent or even telling you because of a kid's phase.
What I'm trying to say is, judging is easy when you just want to agree with your own opinion.

 

[LilRora]

At least we answered the question posed by OP. You dodged the question.

I don't really have much to say on the topic. Sensitivity is more of a spectrum than a zero-one-minus one system, and I wouldn't say the OP is overly sensitive, just that he's more sensitive than most people. Which, in my opinion, is a good thing.

And that doesn't change the fact that it's largely a cultural thing as well.

Whenever I'm not goofing around and shitposting I don't write much, usually it's just yes\no. So I'm not sure how to react to this.

Well, you are at least honest (I think). I was mostly referring to the fact that there are many experts and people with relevant experiences, but they often don't take part in discussions like that, while there are many that have no experience on the subject and write as if they did.

My comment was not supposed to be about word count, but about the content and relevant experience vs how vocal someone is about their opinion.

Edit: I also have no idea how you should react to this.

 

[CheertheSecond]

I have nothing to say here. I'm all for punishing a child as a parent should but I'm against child abuse and suicide. Though I can't change other people so I'll be as kind as I can to others in order to show them some form of generosity and kindness that they may not have in their lives.

I do not think punishing bad behaviours is wrong but if the child committed suicide after that then that means there was a much deeper story beneath. It may be a problem from the way the mother educated her children from the early days then it accumulated and became one time too many.

Isn’t everyone different from each other and may require different care?

 

[Anon2024]

I don't really have much to say on the topic. Sensitivity is more of a spectrum than a zero-one-minus one system, and I wouldn't say the OP is overly sensitive, just that he's more sensitive than most people. Which, in my opinion, is a good thing.

And that doesn't change the fact that it's largely a cultural thing as well.

It’s perhaps more culturally acceptable to shame the victim/individual in more socialist/communist societies.

The question was a A or B and so I answered the way in which the OP could actually do something or reflect.

A cultural thing isn’t an excuse for bad behavior, but desensitizing the self from such bad behavior can allow someone to look directly at it and perhaps understand it.

A problem can’t be fixed unless it’s understood, a world that is too sensitive never fixes anything. While an overly sensitive person only hurts themselves, they generally benefit no one else as well.

 

[SailusGebel]

Well, you are at least honest (I think). I was mostly referring to the fact that there are many experts and people with relevant experiences, but they often don't take part in discussions like that, while there are many that have no experience on the subject and write as if they did.

My comment was not supposed to be about word count, but about the content and relevant experience vs how vocal someone is about their opinion.

What if those experts write short answer? At least here, people rarely bother to ask for an explanation. And I can think of more than one reason for not wanting to write a long, detailed reply\answer. To make it clear, I'm not claiming to be an expert on anything. I'm vocal when it comes to admitting that I'm dumb.

 

[LilRora]

I do not think punishing bad behaviours is wrong but if the child committed suicide after that then that means there was a much deeper story beneath. It may be a problem from the way the mother educated her children from the early days then it accumulated and became one time too many.

Isn’t everyone different from each other and may require different care?

Many parenting practices around the world are effective in short term but disregard long-term effects.

One of my close relatives, for example, is scaring her children with various stories or supersitions to make them behave. Which works in short term, but doesn't take into account the fact that teaching a children not to do something because something bad will happen if they do doesn't account for why they shouldn't do it.

What I mean to say is, many parents use methods that seem to work, but leave holes in education, sometimes even scars, that the parents will be unable to see exactly because they are the ones who leave them. Which may lead to various consequences, all the way to those you described.

What if those experts write short answer? At least here, people rarely bother to ask for an explanation. And I can think of more than one reason for not wanting to write a long, detailed reply\answer. To make it clear, I'm not claiming to be an expert on anything. I'm vocal when it comes to admitting that I'm dumb.

That's the exact thing I'm talking about. An expert can know a lot about the subject, but they often don't participate in the discussion with nearly as much fervor as some people that have little knowledge on the subject. The reason for either isn't really important in this case.

 

[Eclectic_Asininity]

More kids should be beaten and bullied. Genuinely, nothing good has come out of removing physical punishments from youth. They never feel the need to create a moral compass; they never feel like they should rethink their choices because they are constantly coddled and told that everything they want and do is "valid."

This coddling of society has only given rise to sociopaths. I'm not saying every kid needs to be hit; I'm just saying some kids need that extra reinforcement.

If you don't agree, it means you were one of the coddled, and due to this, you cannot be reasoned with. You never understood the nuance of societal interactions, you never learned to mentally progress into adulthood.

What was this thread about again?

 

[SailusGebel]

What was this thread about again?

Doughnuts.

 

[Anon2024]

That's the exact thing I'm talking about. An expert can know a lot about the subject, but they often don't participate in the discussion with nearly as much fervor as some people that have little knowledge on the subject. The reason for either isn't really important in this case.

It’s because most experts have desensitized themselves, and often the people who post bad comments are also over sensitive on the subject due to being afraid they might be wrong.

Comes full circle. Lol.

 

[Tabula_Rasa]

What are these experts?
On what?

 

[SailusGebel]

What are these experts?
On what?

Doughnuts.

 

[Eclectic_Asininity]

What are these experts?
On what?

((("""Experts""")))

 

[Anon2024]

What are these experts?
On what?

Almost everything. The people who engage the least online and don’t get listed in weird political articles.

 

[Tabula_Rasa]

((("""Experts""")))

Almost everything. The people who engage the least online and don’t get listed in weird political articles.

NO, the answer is!

Depends

I am rolling my eyes.

 

[Anon2024]

NO, the answer is!


I am rolling my eyes.

Depends.

 

[SailusGebel]

I am rolling my eyes.

Spoiler: Is this how you look right now?

 

[Eclectic_Asininity]

Almost everything. The people who engage the least online and don’t get listed in weird political articles.

Why would people get engaged online, that's kinda weird. Next you're going to tell me about e-marriages.

 

[Shard]

This is an example of a culture without the love of God in it. You're not too sensitive. You are simply recognizing the lack of love in the world.

Doesn't matter if there is love of God or Gods or none at all. It is possible to love God and be a monster, or to disbelieve in God and be a good person.

That said, I must agree with others here and state that many people like to turn it into a bragging contest about how they had something bad happen once and they were fine, without knowing the entire history behind what happened. Similarly, I have never met anyone fragile enough to end themselves over a single event of that magnitude, but I can personally verify that small events can add up to crippling effect over time. I'm alive purely because my morals forbid dying of any cause, otherwise I'd have ended myself decades ago. Those tiny events happening nonstop over years can very easily drive someone mad, and you only ever hear about that last event, not the long history of them.