Unpopular opinions on Amazon Banning Light Novels

[D4isuke]

Fk this Amazon man

Some Official Tweet right here

I was about to order a kindle version of NGNL, and yet they banned it because of "sexualizing underage"... Well, that make sense as of "anti-pedophilia excuse" or "Cultural Marxist discourse", but this is gone culture conflicting. Like wtf? These SJWs movement is getting old, and it burns our humanity to ground. I mean.. come one. Sometimes we can do good things, and sometimes we can do bad things. If the complaints are from countless Karens or Kevins, then WHY DO YOU INTRODUCE THEM TO AMAZON IN THE FIRST PLACE? Ffs, don't give them Ipads or cellphones and watch crappy Cocomelon's videos to settle your baby down. Don't bring your kids to mall so long that you have to buy many clothes for your selfish opportunity because of sales. Let them have fun with toys or with friends in the middle of the park, playing each other to build their social life. Don't isolate your kids from engaging into "gadgets" stuff. Fking hell, why do you care about Amazon wanting to ban these precious NGNL novels when in fact... the kids don't have money and freedom to do online marketing, and they don't even have a credit card to secure the payment method.

As a former "Insecure" child of me who spent watching some videos for ideal kids, it will be totally a hellhole if it continues to stay on this particular safe zone. It's not even recommendable for parents to encourage the kids for playing mobile games. Let the kids play normally like old days. Let the kids learn from their mistake... because they are kids.

And also, for the "loli content", just let them be cute at all times.. don't sexualize them also. Just sexualize big boob onee-sans, and you're good to go. (Don't also add "moe" face because that is fking disgusting too).

Also also, fuck censorship. If you want some strict programming on site execution, let the 18+ content be the PREMIUM CONTENT so that no kids will enter and buy these products from the "forbidden paradise" as much as they want.

That's it, I don't have much to say. I don't give fk about laws... cuz why not? Laws are also made by tainted human person as much as we are.

 

[LostLibrarian]

Honestly, I don't have a problem with it. So Amazon doesn't want to sell those books? Other retailers will gladly pick it up and make some money. As long as it's only some companies and not something by law (which also was in discussion multiple times), they can do what they want. Game studios, movies, series... a lot of companies make less money because they try to enforce rules of people, who often didn't even read/enjoy the medium itself.

Might even help if Light Novels aren't in the limelight and we don't have the yearly discussion about oversexualized minors and bla bla bla...

Guess I'll buy my Light Novels somewhere else and Amazon will have a little bit less money.
And that's that...

 

[D4isuke]

Guess I'll buy my Light Novels somewhere else and Amazon will have a little bit less money.
And that's that...

And now, all I can trust is Bookwalker and some other printed retailer which I cannot remember tho.

 

[Generik0]

Tbh nothing will change even if they remove those Light Novels specifically NGNL. Sure some parts of the community would be agitated but would they care?

But im kind of irritated they just removed it because of censorship.

 

[Ace_Arriande]

>oneangrygamer link (leave it to him to only stop complaining about black and gay people so that he can come to defend sexualizing lolis)
>blaming "cultural marxist discourse" and the oh so spooky SJWs
>surprised that a global brand is removing something that sexualizes 11-year-old girls and glorifies it
>upset that a capitalist business that has the right to do what it wants as a capitalist business is removing content that hurts its image while calling it censorship
>shit talks marxists and sjws but demands that companies cater to him with porn(wait isn't this what the supposed spooky marxist sjws are doing to poor businesses that do things they don't like???!?!?!)

" That's it, I don't have much to say. I don't give fk about laws... cuz why not? Laws are also made by tainted human person as much as we are. "
wow what a marxist commie SJW thing of you to say despite apparently not liking those

Unfortunately, your opinion is incredibly popular online. I wish it was unpopular, though, because then maybe people would focus on who the actual censors are instead of blaming it all on those spooky SJWs. As hard as it may be for you to believe, the side of people you keep insulting is usually the side that, you know, has a bunch of weeb furry "degenerates" who just want to fuck all day long while treating people with common decency, and they get censored way more frequently. If you're truly supportive of free speech and want to get rid of all "censorship," you probably have more in common with the "SJWs" than the people who complain about them.

Guess I'll buy my Light Novels somewhere else and Amazon will have a little bit less money.
And that's that...

Amazon is actually the good guy here by forcing us to support smaller businesses instead of maintaining their monopoly.

 

[LostLibrarian]

Amazon is actually the good guy here by forcing us to support smaller businesses instead of maintaining their monopoly.

NGNL is already sold out on multiple other sites...
They probabaly made more sales thanks to this than the last few months combined

 

[D4isuke]

wow what a marxist commie SJW thing of you to say despite apparently not liking those

Am I? If so, I can hate myself for that.

 

[Ace_Arriande]

NGNL is already sold out on multiple other sites...
They probabaly made more sales thanks to this than the last few months combined

Reminds me of the good ol' days where the biggest boost that Royal Road ever gave to my Patreon was by removing my smut story from their platform. Heck, getting "censored" is good for sales these days pretty much regardless of medium. How do we know that theses businesses aren't actually trying to help us by censoring us? I mean, every time something gets censored, there's a ton of news about it and then it gets way more visibility which means more sales. It's almost like they're trying to help us after all!

 

[BenJepheneT]

>oneangrygamer link (leave it to him to only stop complaining about black and gay people so that he can come to defend sexualizing lolis)
>blaming "cultural marxist discourse" and the oh so spooky SJWs
>surprised that a global brand is removing something that sexualizes 11-year-old girls and glorifies it
>upset that a capitalist business that has the right to do what it wants as a capitalist business is removing content that hurts its image while calling it censorship
>shit talks marxists and sjws but demands that companies cater to him with porn(wait isn't this what the supposed spooky marxist sjws are doing to poor businesses that do things they don't like???!?!?!)

" That's it, I don't have much to say. I don't give fk about laws... cuz why not? Laws are also made by tainted human person as much as we are. "
wow what a marxist commie SJW thing of you to say despite apparently not liking those

Unfortunately, your opinion is incredibly popular online. I wish it was unpopular, though, because then maybe people would focus on who the actual censors are instead of blaming it all on those spooky SJWs. As hard as it may be for you to believe, the side of people you keep insulting is usually the side that, you know, has a bunch of weeb furry "degenerates" who just want to fuck all day long while treating people with common decency, and they get censored way more frequently. If you're truly supportive of free speech and want to get rid of all "censorship," you probably have more in common with the "SJWs" than the people who complain about them.



Amazon is actually the good guy here by forcing us to support smaller businesses instead of maintaining their monopoly.

I unironically wish that the whole SJW narrative can finally stop so people can actually start seeing the actual things that needs to be criticized on instead of pointing at the extreme strawman both sides seem to keep building up.

 

[Ace_Arriande]

I unironically wish that the whole SJW narrative can finally stop so people can actually start seeing the actual things that needs to be criticized on instead of pointing at the extreme strawman both sides seem to keep building up.

But don't you know that requires actual critical thought instead of blindly devouring their propaganda of choice?! You want people to actually use their brains?!

 

[LostLibrarian]

I unironically wish that the whole SJW narrative can finally stop so people can actually start seeing the actual things that needs to be criticized on instead of pointing at the extreme strawman both sides seem to keep building up.

But probably 90% of the biggest problems in the world would need for us to (drastically) change our life style and consumption. Do you expect people to change their lives and question themselves?

It's so much easier to get angry about a picture or to get angry about people getting angry about a picture.
You still have a nice feeling when you shut off twitter and go to sleep...

 

[BenJepheneT]

But probably 90% of the biggest problems in the world would need for us to (drastically) change our life style and consumption. Do you expect people to change their lives and question themselves?

It's so much easier to get angry about a picture or to get angry about people getting angry about a picture.
You still have a nice feeling when you shut off twitter and go to sleep...

Speaking of Twitter, they don't want to have a discussion. They just want to feel good about themselves by thinking they're virtuous or enlightened by being aware of most things. It's a fucking circle jerk. That place has more in common with a free-for-all therapy circle than an actual forum of discussion.

 

[BenJepheneT]

But don't you know that requires actual critical thought instead of blindly devouring their propaganda of choice?! You want people to actually use their brains?!

It's not that they don't want to think. It's just that whenever they try to have independent thought, the propaganda hands them a label. And they don't have enough self-esteem to think past the label and thus, duck back down into the echo chamber.

 

[Ace_Arriande]

Speaking of Twitter, they don't want to have a discussion. They just want to feel good about themselves by thinking they're virtuous or enlightened by being aware of most things. It's a fucking circle jerk. That place has more in common with a free-for-all therapy circle than an actual forum of discussion.

I use Twitter constantly and never see this sort of thing any more frequently than anywhere else, honestly. It's all about who you follow and what sort of things you look at. You can find the exact same Twitter shitfests on Reddit, Youtube, 4chan, Instagram, Discord, or even this forum. Twitter just has a higher volume of it because it's bigger, but every single form of social media is just as guilty of that unless you're running an exclusive group of people handpicked to not be like that.

 

[BenJepheneT]

I use Twitter constantly and never see this sort of thing any more frequently than anywhere else, honestly. It's all about who you follow and what sort of things you look at. You can find the exact same Twitter shitfests on Reddit, Youtube, 4chan, Instagram, Discord, or even this forum. Twitter just has a higher volume of it because it's bigger, but every single form of social media is just as guilty of that unless you're running an exclusive group of people handpicked to not be like that.

Idk about you but none of the social media you've listed as the same amount of calibre of circle jerking as Twitter has. At least in Instagram, you can see people actively calling out bullshit and praising said post in a just about an even number. Hell, you can never find a fully agreeable thread in 4chan, like ever. There's always that one guy that goes "OP is a f*g" somewhere down the line. But Twitter? Oh god. Especially in the political department.

 

[Ace_Arriande]

Idk about you but none of the social media you've listed as the same amount of calibre of circle jerking as Twitter has. At least in Instagram, you can see people actively calling out bullshit and praising said post in a just about an even number. Hell, you can never find a fully agreeable thread in 4chan, like ever. There's always that one guy that goes "OP is a f*g" somewhere down the line. But Twitter? Oh god. Especially in the political department.

I see people call each other out on bullshit all the time on Twitter, on all sides of the political spectrum. I honestly see more of that than blind circlejerking whenever I look past the top reply (but, to be fair, part of the problem is that the shitty stuff usually rises to the top due to how the algorithm works that basically rewards people for being controversial). But, like I said. It all depends on who you're following and what sort of hashtags you're looking under. 99% of what I see is anime tiddy without the lesser concerns of man such as politics and social issues.

The only one I'd say that's genuinely, legitimately the worst out of all those is YouTube since you have to put in an extreme amount of effort to see opposing opinions on videos. Opposing opinions get buried insanely fast and are almost impossible to find unless you want to sort by new comments and scroll through YT's shitty comment system for a few hours.

 

[BenJepheneT]

The only one I'd say that's genuinely, legitimately the worst out of all those is YouTube since you have to put in an extreme amount of effort to see opposing opinions on videos. Opposing opinions get buried insanely fast and are almost impossible to find unless you want to sort by new comments and scroll through YT's shitty comment system for a few hours.

I regard YT as less of a social media and more of something akin to DeviantArt. There's no way you can have any sort of back and forth discussion without reenacting the Opinion About God meme.

 

[Ace_Arriande]

I regard YT as less of a social media and more of something akin to DeviantArt. There's no way you can have any sort of back and forth discussion without reenacting the Opinion About God meme.

truuu
But even if people shouldn't bother having a discourse there, that doesn't stop them from trying all the damn time. There are probably more back-and-forth discussions on YT if you go through all the comments and replies to comments than on Twitter or Facebook.

I wonder if there are any actual statistics regarding that... well, I can't find anything that includes YouTube, but Instagram apparently gets the most engagement out of every social media platform for whatever that's worth.

 

[BenJepheneT]

but Instagram apparently gets the most engagement out of every social media platform for whatever that's worth.

Engaging in that site is as easy as posting a picture. Literally. It's like the easiest social media to use. In Twitter you have that dumb ass 250 word cap, and hidden replies, and @ mentions and all that. All Instagram has is emojis and a post button. No wonder everyone flocks there.

 

[ChronicleCrawler]

Reminds me of the good ol' days where the biggest boost that Royal Road ever gave to my Patreon was by removing my smut story from their platform. Heck, getting "censored" is good for sales these days pretty much regardless of medium. How do we know that theses businesses aren't actually trying to help us by censoring us? I mean, every time something gets censored, there's a ton of news about it and then it gets way more visibility which means more sales. It's almost like they're trying to help us after all!

The power of free promotion/advertisement. Whatever you did, ya'll gonna be the talk of the town. Gonna be boosted +traffic. A few months later, a lot we'll definitely forget what happened at all. Such is human.