What's up with this BL author's rumors about being convicted?

[Generic.Archdemon]

In short, she was rumored to be have been detained for publishing and distributing illegal materials containing BL in her home province.

i looked it up, from what I understand... she was detained August 2019?

And just now? the reason was revealed publicly, and it for tax evasion.

personally, I am not so sure if this case is bl censorship, because her work had been made in to tv shows and movies, and i thought Danmei(or bl without sex scenes) is currently a thriving industry in China.

《陈情令》作者被判非法经营罪，墨香铜臭一夜跌落神坛_晋江

这本小说一下子让她在圈内小有名气，但真正让她走上神坛的作品是2015年10月31日开始连载的《魔道祖师》，这部耽美玄幻小说一经连载就成为爆款，优秀的群像塑造推动了海量的同人创作，这部现象级作品也为她培养…

m.sohu.com

don't quote me my chinese is a bit rusty.

also,
the author that got 10 years, from what I understand its not the BL, it the pornograhy that got her arrested, production of pornographic materials in China is illegal. fan are angry... and the question of would it be the same if it was porn but not bl, would it be the same... I don't know.

 

[Queenfisher]

i looked it up, from what I understand... she was detained August 2019?

And just now? the reason was revealed publicly, and it for tax evasion.

personally, I am not so sure if this case is bl censorship, because her work had been made in to tv shows and movies, and i thought Danmei(or bl without sex scenes) is currently a thriving industry in China.

《陈情令》作者被判非法经营罪，墨香铜臭一夜跌落神坛_晋江

这本小说一下子让她在圈内小有名气，但真正让她走上神坛的作品是2015年10月31日开始连载的《魔道祖师》，这部耽美玄幻小说一经连载就成为爆款，优秀的群像塑造推动了海量的同人创作，这部现象级作品也为她培养…

m.sohu.com

don't quote me my chinese is a bit rusty.

I meant something like this:

"Until November 10th 2020, I received definite news.
Chinese referee documents network discloses a message:
Yang Yang and Yuan Yimei illegally operate criminal judgments of first instance.
At the same time, the Court held that the contents of this criminal judgement were not appropriate for public disclosure on the Internet.
Therefore, netizens can only determine that MXTX is indeed detained, the reason for detention is "illegal operation"."

I know about the old rumors which I why I said they resurfaced. Her real name and her pseudonym is the question here because someone named "Yuan Yimei" was (apparently) found guilty the day before yesterday, but now I want to know if it is the same person...

also,
the author that got 10 years, from what I understand its not the BL, it the pornograhy that got her arrested, production of pornographic materials in China is illegal. fan are angry... and the question of would it be the same if it was porn but not bl, would it be the same... I don't know.

Yes, I know about that too, so I said she did break the law of publishing and distributing illegal content. (And Yaoi is "pornographic" in nature). It's the length of the sentence that is the question most are so fascinated by, thus linking it to BL due to it being much more offensive to the "social norms" of minors than het. (At least that's what I understand the outrage was about).

Thus, the author's two books that contain Yaoi (i.e. "pornographic" content) being blocked is what raises my concern now...

 

[Generic.Archdemon]

I meant something like this:

"Until November 10th 2020, I received definite news.
Chinese referee documents network discloses a message:
Yang Yang and Yuan Yimei illegally operate criminal judgments of first instance.
At the same time, the Court held that the contents of this criminal judgement were not appropriate for public disclosure on the Internet.
Therefore, netizens can only determine that MXTX is indeed detained, the reason for detention is "illegal operation"."

I know about the old rumors which I why I said they resurfaced. Her real name and her pseudonym is the question here because someone named "Yuan Yimei" was (apparently) found guilty the day before yesterday, but now I want to know if it is the same person...



Yes, I know about that too, so I said she did break the law of publishing and distributing illegal content. (And Yaoi is "pornographic" in nature). It's the length of the sentence that is the question most are so fascinated by, thus linking it to BL due to it being much more offensive to the "social norms" of minors than het. (At least that's what I understand the outrage was about).

Thus, the author's two books that contain Yaoi (i.e. "pornographic" content) being blocked is what raises my concern now...

AH~ I am up to date now...

So this is what I understand. now
in August 2019 there was a rumor that MXTX was arrested for tax evasion, however the publisher for MXTX's work came out and disputed that rumor.

But on 11/10/20 the Hangzhou Shangcheng People's Court announced that Yang Yang and Yuan Yimei is arrested for operating a business illegally,

《陈情令》作者墨香铜臭非法经营刑事案判决

《陈情令》作者墨香铜臭非法经营刑事案判决,墨香铜臭,刑事案,判决书

ent.163.com

While it seems pretty concert that MXTX is charged, the officials does not appeared to have released what the details of the charges are but in further reading the crime of operating a business illegally reference is there

非法经营罪

非法经营罪是指行为人实施《中华人民共和国刑法》第二百二十五条所述非法经营活动，从而构成犯罪。

baike.baidu.com

It will take some time for me to understand what that crime entail, but I will find out if I can.

But because the the rumor from 2019, people/fans are confused and are being cynical of what is actually happening.

 

[Queenfisher]

AH~ I am up to date now...

So this is what I understand. now
in August 2019 there was a rumor that MXTX was arrested for tax evasion, however the publisher for MXTX's work came out and disputed that rumor.

But on 11/10/20 the Hangzhou Shangcheng People's Court announced that Yang Yang and Yuan Yimei is arrested for operating a business illegally,

《陈情令》作者墨香铜臭非法经营刑事案判决

《陈情令》作者墨香铜臭非法经营刑事案判决,墨香铜臭,刑事案,判决书

ent.163.com

While it seems pretty concert that MXTX is charged, the officials does not appeared to have released what the details of the charges are but in further reading the crime of operating a business illegally reference is there

非法经营罪

非法经营罪是指行为人实施《中华人民共和国刑法》第二百二十五条所述非法经营活动，从而构成犯罪。

baike.baidu.com

It will take some time for me to understand what that crime entail, but I will find out if I can.

But because the the rumor from 2019, people/fans are confused and are being cynical of what is actually happening.

Wow, thank you so much! Sorry for getting you into all this. I was just genuinely worried and confused about it all...

 

[Generic.Archdemon]

I will find out if I can.

i am still at work... but it should be chinese law article 225

 

[Generic.Archdemon]

i am still at work... but it should be chinese law article 225

pornography crime is article 363 to 367

 

[officialue]

This is China. People disappearing is fairly normal. Professors authors, models, critics, billionaires. They all just disappear, never to be seen again, only to land in a beautiful labour camp.

Jesus Christ

 

[Generic.Archdemon]

chinese law article 225

I imagine anyone interested in this have already googled Criminal Law of the People's Republic of China Article 225 but just in case, here it is.

Article 225

Whoever, in violation of State regulations, commits any of the following illegal acts in business operation and thus disrupts market order, if the circumstances are serious, shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than five years or criminal detention and shall also, or shall only, be fined not less than one time but not more than five times the amount of illegal gains; if the circumstances are especially serious, he shall be sentenced to fixed- term imprisonment of not less than five years and shall also be fined not less than one time but not more than five times the amount of illegal gains or be sentenced to confiscation of property:

(1) without permission, dealing in goods that are designated by laws or administrative rules and regulations as goods to be dealt in or sold in a monopoly way or other goods that are restricted in trading;

(2) buying or selling import or export licenses, import or export certificates of origin or other business licenses or approval papers required by laws or administrative rules and regulations; or

(3) without approval of the competent State department, illegally engaging in securities, futures or insurance business;” and the original third sub-paragraph is changed to be the fourth

(4) other illegal operations that seriously disrupt market order.

Ref: https://www.cecc.gov/resources/lega...of-the-peoples-republic-of-china#Chapter IV.8

 

[Idamimi]

I don't know Chinese but the news about Mo Xiang Tong Xiu's (the popular author of Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation for those who don't know) old rumors about being arrested resurfaced. I have no idea what's going on but the Weibo is supposedly very agitated about this?

In short, she was rumored to be have been detained for publishing and distributing illegal materials containing BL in her home province. For two last years, these rumors came and went, worsened by the fact that she disappeared from the internet (though she was very active before that).

Now her home province seems to have banned her two popular BL books (Scum Villain and Grandmaster) for "threatening the social norms of minors"? This is just a bit... frustrating, to say the least .

Note: a similar case of several years ago ended up with the BL author being imprisoned for 10 years for the same offense.

Does anybody know what's going on with that? I can't find anything factual but I am worried...

Yes she is in jail. She is been sentenced 3 years for publish her own book. Court is not in public….It’s just so hilarious that the one who sell pirated her books no need to go jail but she needs. Fxxx communist China! Fxxx totalitarian!

Thanks for telling the truth about china. The people outside china know more than the people living there! Censorship just blinds all the people in china. MXTX disappeared more than 2 years and her Chinese fans are still insisting that she is not in jail because of she is innocent! Chinese people never know that a lot of innocent people in jail In china!

AH~ I am up to date now...

So this is what I understand. now
in August 2019 there was a rumor that MXTX was arrested for tax evasion, however the publisher for MXTX's work came out and disputed that rumor.

But on 11/10/20 the Hangzhou Shangcheng People's Court announced that Yang Yang and Yuan Yimei is arrested for operating a business illegally,

《陈情令》作者墨香铜臭非法经营刑事案判决

《陈情令》作者墨香铜臭非法经营刑事案判决,墨香铜臭,刑事案,判决书

ent.163.com

While it seems pretty concert that MXTX is charged, the officials does not appeared to have released what the details of the charges are but in further reading the crime of operating a business illegally reference is there

非法经营罪

非法经营罪是指行为人实施《中华人民共和国刑法》第二百二十五条所述非法经营活动，从而构成犯罪。

baike.baidu.com

It will take some time for me to understand what that crime entail, but I will find out if I can.

But because the the rumor from 2019, people/fans are confused and are being cynical of what is actually happening.

I’m Chinese. I can read and understand Chinese law. But actually there is no law in china, CCP can sentence anything to anyone…. Her fans in china refused to see what happening because of they have been brainwashed by government which made them never believe government will put innocent people in jail. And in Chinese culture, in jail means guilty and shameful. They don’t have the idea that it’s proud for an author in jail in a totalitarian country.

 

[tiaf]

Yes she is in jail. She is been sentenced 3 years for publish her own book. Court is not in public….It’s just so hilarious that the one who sell pirated her books no need to go jail but she needs. Fxxx communist China! Fxxx totalitarian!


I’m Chinese. I can read and understand Chinese law. But actually there is no law in china, CCP can sentence anything to anyone…. Her fans in china refused to see what happening because of they have been brainwashed by government which made them never believe government will put innocent people in jail. And in Chinese culture, in jail means guilty and shameful. They don’t have the idea that it’s proud for an author in jail in a totalitarian country.

Oh god. But they do sell the right for her books here and there. How obvious can they rip her off???

 

[Idamimi]

Oh god. But they do sell the right for her books here and there. How obvious can they rip her off???

China can just rip a person off easily. A big tv star(Zhang zhehan) who has millions of fans can be rip off within one day, no mention MXTX. A powerful totalitarian country can do anything….