Ddraig
<First Dragon of SHF> <Pokemon Goddess of NuF>
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So @greyblob 's thread inspired me to do some data collection,
The collection consists of 170 novels which were in trending on 23-09-2021
Title Length
Avg = 30.45 chars
Std = 20 chars
Min = 4 chars (REND)
Max = 141 chars (That Time I got reincarnated as… The Demon Lord’s butler?! Now I should help her annihilate all Humans while hiding the fact I’m helping them)
25 / 50 / 75 % = 17 / 27 / 38
The titles for the most part are pretty reasonable on nuf but you do get the occasional jp inspired titles.
Synopsis Length
Avg = 967 chars
Std = 627 chars
25/50/75 = 507/808/1339
Min = 64 chars (Brightest Doom)
Max = 3562 chars (Days of a Wrathful Demoness)
Around 800~1000 words seems to be the sweet spot I guess.
Authors with multiple series in trending
Bokuboy: 3
Greydra: 2
Waskertyioup: 2
Saileri: 2
ravnicrasol: 2
Queen: 2
Jamminrabbit: 2
Xeoz: 2
I_just_want_to_eat: 2
whatsawhizzer: 2
Basically_God: 2
HappyVainGlory: 2
I guess these guys are doing something right?
Occurence of Tags
Unique count = 565
Avg = ~5.1
Std = ~6.47
25/50/75 = 1/3/6
Max = 48
Min = 1
People really love weak-to-strong stuff huh? R-18 is also pretty fucking high. Interestingly, the mid tier stuff is all the fetishes ranging from demon girls, incest to futa.
Not listing all ~550-ish of them but yeah. Btw Cryostasis was used once and that really makes me happy :)
I did another association mining even if it wasnt really gonna work due to have 550 tags in 170 series... dont take this ones seriously at all.
Still these all do seem to make sense to me.
Other stats
total views all
Max: 4361164 World Keeper
Min: 544 Diving Through The Youth
Avg: 246369.38823529411
total views chapters
Max: 3841504 World Keeper
Min: 190 Diving Through The Youth
Avg: 192407.36
average views
Max: 14474 Tree of Aeons (an Isekai Story)
Min: 15 I Will Become a God
Avg: 1502.77
word count
Max: 1551231 World Keeper
Min: 4170 Diving Through The Youth
Avg: 187845.54
average words
Max: 10846 Dream Engine: Beta Tester…. D.C. Comics
Min: 361 Kigal-Note
Avg: 2338.29
I honestly probably will check out the longer ones just for the sheer fact that they are willing to write those in the presence of a main page that promotes daily uploads. But as expected, the average is at ~2.3k
pages
Max: 5641 World Keeper
Min: 16 Diving Through The Youth
Avg: 683.56
Association Mining
Most common sense stuff proves to be true. There are some interesting strong implications too, so you might wanna join the crowd or alternatively try to stand out?
Genre distribution:
Remember that this is from a set of size 170. Total number of genres tagged were 1249. So ideally if every tag were to be given equal importance, the average count of tag should be ~40.3 times. Aka at sol and smut-tier.
Removing the inflated, useless genres like fantasy, action and adventure, we get an average of 32 times. So I guess the gender bender to school life part of the chart is what should ideally the case be.
As such I would suggest to slap the 2~3 useless genres + 1~2 from isekai to mature + your actual genre from gb to school life + ~1 from bottom to spice up your story. The limit is 9 genres, this comes out at 5 to 7 genres. Perfect.
@Agentt asked for some more stats on my profile,
"Number of shoujo written by men/number of shounen written by girls?"
Unfortunately it turns out that Shonen and Shoujo do not exist as a genre or tag on sh. I thus went with Seinen and Josei.
For seinen, there were 12 series in trending out of which,
The collection consists of 170 novels which were in trending on 23-09-2021
Title Length
Avg = 30.45 chars
Std = 20 chars
Min = 4 chars (REND)
Max = 141 chars (That Time I got reincarnated as… The Demon Lord’s butler?! Now I should help her annihilate all Humans while hiding the fact I’m helping them)
25 / 50 / 75 % = 17 / 27 / 38
The titles for the most part are pretty reasonable on nuf but you do get the occasional jp inspired titles.
Synopsis Length
Avg = 967 chars
Std = 627 chars
25/50/75 = 507/808/1339
Min = 64 chars (Brightest Doom)
Max = 3562 chars (Days of a Wrathful Demoness)
Around 800~1000 words seems to be the sweet spot I guess.
Authors with multiple series in trending
Bokuboy: 3
Greydra: 2
Waskertyioup: 2
Saileri: 2
ravnicrasol: 2
Queen: 2
Jamminrabbit: 2
Xeoz: 2
I_just_want_to_eat: 2
whatsawhizzer: 2
Basically_God: 2
HappyVainGlory: 2
I guess these guys are doing something right?
Occurence of Tags
Unique count = 565
Avg = ~5.1
Std = ~6.47
25/50/75 = 1/3/6
Max = 48
Min = 1
Code:
Weak to Strong 48
Magic 45
Fantasy World 45
Female Protagonist 38
Character Growth 34
R-18 32
Overpowered Protagonist 30
Adventurers 30
Male Protagonist 30
Antihero Protagonist 29
Beautiful Female Lead 28
Alternate World 27
Comedic Undertone 27
Beastkin 26
Game Elements 26
Level System 25
Reincarnated into Another World 25
Non-human Protagonist 24
Demons 24
Elves 23
Polygamy 22
Gods 22
Monster Girls 21
Calm Protagonist 21
Fantasy Creatures 20
Demi-Humans 20
Male to Female 20
Monsters 20
Dragons 20
Sword And Magic 19
Incest 19
Dungeons 19
Appearance Changes 18
Multiple POV 18
Transported into Another World 17
Futanari 17
Age Progression 16
Demon Lord 16
Hiding True Abilities 15
Academy 15
Strong to Stronger 14
Clever Protagonist 14
Caring Protagonist 14
Succubus 14
Kingdoms 13
Harem-seeking Protagonist 13
Kingdom Building 13
Hiding True Identity 12
Human-Nonhuman Relationship 12
Perverted Protagonist 12
Not listing all ~550-ish of them but yeah. Btw Cryostasis was used once and that really makes me happy :)
{Transported into Another World} -> {Magic} (conf: 0.529, supp: 0.053, lift: 2.000, conv: 1.562)
{Multiple POV} -> {Weak to Strong} (conf: 0.500, supp: 0.053, lift: 1.771, conv: 1.435)
{Human-Nonhuman Relationship} -> {Adventurers} (conf: 0.750, supp: 0.053, lift: 4.250, conv: 3.294)
{Sword And Magic} -> {Magic} (conf: 0.526, supp: 0.059, lift: 1.988, conv: 1.552)
{Sword And Magic} -> {Fantasy World} (conf: 0.579, supp: 0.065, lift: 2.187, conv: 1.746)
{Monsters} -> {Magic} (conf: 0.550, supp: 0.065, lift: 2.078, conv: 1.634)
{Monster Girls} -> {R-18} (conf: 0.524, supp: 0.065, lift: 2.783, conv: 1.705)
{Dungeons} -> {Weak to Strong} (conf: 0.632, supp: 0.071, lift: 2.237, conv: 1.948)
{Gods} -> {Weak to Strong} (conf: 0.545, supp: 0.071, lift: 1.932, conv: 1.579)
{Elves} -> {Beastkin} (conf: 0.522, supp: 0.071, lift: 3.411, conv: 1.771)
{Polygamy} -> {R-18} (conf: 0.545, supp: 0.071, lift: 2.898, conv: 1.786)
{Fantasy Creatures} -> {Fantasy World} (conf: 0.650, supp: 0.076, lift: 2.456, conv: 2.101)
{Game Elements} -> {Weak to Strong} (conf: 0.538, supp: 0.082, lift: 1.907, conv: 1.555)
{Male Protagonist} -> {Magic} (conf: 0.500, supp: 0.088, lift: 1.889, conv: 1.471)
{Multiple POV} -> {Weak to Strong} (conf: 0.500, supp: 0.053, lift: 1.771, conv: 1.435)
{Human-Nonhuman Relationship} -> {Adventurers} (conf: 0.750, supp: 0.053, lift: 4.250, conv: 3.294)
{Sword And Magic} -> {Magic} (conf: 0.526, supp: 0.059, lift: 1.988, conv: 1.552)
{Sword And Magic} -> {Fantasy World} (conf: 0.579, supp: 0.065, lift: 2.187, conv: 1.746)
{Monsters} -> {Magic} (conf: 0.550, supp: 0.065, lift: 2.078, conv: 1.634)
{Monster Girls} -> {R-18} (conf: 0.524, supp: 0.065, lift: 2.783, conv: 1.705)
{Dungeons} -> {Weak to Strong} (conf: 0.632, supp: 0.071, lift: 2.237, conv: 1.948)
{Gods} -> {Weak to Strong} (conf: 0.545, supp: 0.071, lift: 1.932, conv: 1.579)
{Elves} -> {Beastkin} (conf: 0.522, supp: 0.071, lift: 3.411, conv: 1.771)
{Polygamy} -> {R-18} (conf: 0.545, supp: 0.071, lift: 2.898, conv: 1.786)
{Fantasy Creatures} -> {Fantasy World} (conf: 0.650, supp: 0.076, lift: 2.456, conv: 2.101)
{Game Elements} -> {Weak to Strong} (conf: 0.538, supp: 0.082, lift: 1.907, conv: 1.555)
{Male Protagonist} -> {Magic} (conf: 0.500, supp: 0.088, lift: 1.889, conv: 1.471)
Still these all do seem to make sense to me.
Other stats
total views all
Max: 4361164 World Keeper
Min: 544 Diving Through The Youth
Avg: 246369.38823529411
total views chapters
Max: 3841504 World Keeper
Min: 190 Diving Through The Youth
Avg: 192407.36
average views
Max: 14474 Tree of Aeons (an Isekai Story)
Min: 15 I Will Become a God
Avg: 1502.77
word count
Max: 1551231 World Keeper
Min: 4170 Diving Through The Youth
Avg: 187845.54
average words
Max: 10846 Dream Engine: Beta Tester…. D.C. Comics
Min: 361 Kigal-Note
Avg: 2338.29
I honestly probably will check out the longer ones just for the sheer fact that they are willing to write those in the presence of a main page that promotes daily uploads. But as expected, the average is at ~2.3k
pages
Max: 5641 World Keeper
Min: 16 Diving Through The Youth
Avg: 683.56
Association Mining
{Romance} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.718, supp: 0.329, lift: 0.925, conv: 0.793)
{Romance} -> {Action} (conf: 0.692, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.023, conv: 1.051)
{Fantasy} -> {Action} (conf: 0.720, supp: 0.559, lift: 1.064, conv: 1.154)
{Action} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.826, supp: 0.559, lift: 1.064, conv: 1.285)
{Isekai} -> {Action} (conf: 0.721, supp: 0.365, lift: 1.066, conv: 1.159)
{Action} -> {Isekai} (conf: 0.539, supp: 0.365, lift: 1.066, conv: 1.072)
{Fantasy, Isekai} -> {Action} (conf: 0.724, supp: 0.324, lift: 1.070, conv: 1.171)
{Harem} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.839, supp: 0.306, lift: 1.080, conv: 1.386)
{Isekai} -> {Adventure} (conf: 0.698, supp: 0.353, lift: 1.108, conv: 1.226)
{Adventure} -> {Isekai} (conf: 0.561, supp: 0.353, lift: 1.108, conv: 1.125)
{Adventure, Fantasy} -> {Isekai} (conf: 0.568, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.124, conv: 1.145)
{Isekai} -> {Adventure, Fantasy} (conf: 0.628, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.124, conv: 1.186)
{Fantasy, Isekai} -> {Adventure} (conf: 0.711, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.129, conv: 1.280)
{Adventure} -> {Fantasy, Isekai} (conf: 0.505, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.129, conv: 1.116)
{Isekai} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.884, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.138, conv: 1.922)
{Fantasy} -> {Isekai} (conf: 0.576, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.138, conv: 1.165)
{Action, Isekai} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.887, supp: 0.324, lift: 1.142, conv: 1.980)
{Fantasy} -> {Adventure} (conf: 0.720, supp: 0.559, lift: 1.143, conv: 1.322)
{Adventure} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.888, supp: 0.559, lift: 1.143, conv: 1.993)
{Action, Fantasy} -> {Isekai} (conf: 0.579, supp: 0.324, lift: 1.144, conv: 1.174)
{Isekai} -> {Action, Fantasy} (conf: 0.640, supp: 0.324, lift: 1.144, conv: 1.224)
{Action, Adventure} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.894, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.152, conv: 2.111)
{Fantasy} -> {Action, Adventure} (conf: 0.576, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.152, conv: 1.179)
{Adventure, Isekai} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.900, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.159, conv: 2.235)
{LitRPG} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.909, supp: 0.353, lift: 1.171, conv: 2.459)
{Adventure} -> {Action} (conf: 0.794, supp: 0.500, lift: 1.174, conv: 1.574)
{Action} -> {Adventure} (conf: 0.739, supp: 0.500, lift: 1.174, conv: 1.421)
{Adventure, Fantasy} -> {Action} (conf: 0.800, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.183, conv: 1.618)
{Action} -> {Adventure, Fantasy} (conf: 0.661, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.183, conv: 1.301)
{Action, Fantasy} -> {Adventure} (conf: 0.800, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.271, conv: 1.853)
{Adventure} -> {Action, Fantasy} (conf: 0.710, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.271, conv: 1.523)
{Romance} -> {Action} (conf: 0.692, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.023, conv: 1.051)
{Fantasy} -> {Action} (conf: 0.720, supp: 0.559, lift: 1.064, conv: 1.154)
{Action} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.826, supp: 0.559, lift: 1.064, conv: 1.285)
{Isekai} -> {Action} (conf: 0.721, supp: 0.365, lift: 1.066, conv: 1.159)
{Action} -> {Isekai} (conf: 0.539, supp: 0.365, lift: 1.066, conv: 1.072)
{Fantasy, Isekai} -> {Action} (conf: 0.724, supp: 0.324, lift: 1.070, conv: 1.171)
{Harem} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.839, supp: 0.306, lift: 1.080, conv: 1.386)
{Isekai} -> {Adventure} (conf: 0.698, supp: 0.353, lift: 1.108, conv: 1.226)
{Adventure} -> {Isekai} (conf: 0.561, supp: 0.353, lift: 1.108, conv: 1.125)
{Adventure, Fantasy} -> {Isekai} (conf: 0.568, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.124, conv: 1.145)
{Isekai} -> {Adventure, Fantasy} (conf: 0.628, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.124, conv: 1.186)
{Fantasy, Isekai} -> {Adventure} (conf: 0.711, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.129, conv: 1.280)
{Adventure} -> {Fantasy, Isekai} (conf: 0.505, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.129, conv: 1.116)
{Isekai} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.884, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.138, conv: 1.922)
{Fantasy} -> {Isekai} (conf: 0.576, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.138, conv: 1.165)
{Action, Isekai} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.887, supp: 0.324, lift: 1.142, conv: 1.980)
{Fantasy} -> {Adventure} (conf: 0.720, supp: 0.559, lift: 1.143, conv: 1.322)
{Adventure} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.888, supp: 0.559, lift: 1.143, conv: 1.993)
{Action, Fantasy} -> {Isekai} (conf: 0.579, supp: 0.324, lift: 1.144, conv: 1.174)
{Isekai} -> {Action, Fantasy} (conf: 0.640, supp: 0.324, lift: 1.144, conv: 1.224)
{Action, Adventure} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.894, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.152, conv: 2.111)
{Fantasy} -> {Action, Adventure} (conf: 0.576, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.152, conv: 1.179)
{Adventure, Isekai} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.900, supp: 0.318, lift: 1.159, conv: 2.235)
{LitRPG} -> {Fantasy} (conf: 0.909, supp: 0.353, lift: 1.171, conv: 2.459)
{Adventure} -> {Action} (conf: 0.794, supp: 0.500, lift: 1.174, conv: 1.574)
{Action} -> {Adventure} (conf: 0.739, supp: 0.500, lift: 1.174, conv: 1.421)
{Adventure, Fantasy} -> {Action} (conf: 0.800, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.183, conv: 1.618)
{Action} -> {Adventure, Fantasy} (conf: 0.661, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.183, conv: 1.301)
{Action, Fantasy} -> {Adventure} (conf: 0.800, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.271, conv: 1.853)
{Adventure} -> {Action, Fantasy} (conf: 0.710, supp: 0.447, lift: 1.271, conv: 1.523)
Most common sense stuff proves to be true. There are some interesting strong implications too, so you might wanna join the crowd or alternatively try to stand out?
Genre distribution:
Remember that this is from a set of size 170. Total number of genres tagged were 1249. So ideally if every tag were to be given equal importance, the average count of tag should be ~40.3 times. Aka at sol and smut-tier.
Removing the inflated, useless genres like fantasy, action and adventure, we get an average of 32 times. So I guess the gender bender to school life part of the chart is what should ideally the case be.
As such I would suggest to slap the 2~3 useless genres + 1~2 from isekai to mature + your actual genre from gb to school life + ~1 from bottom to spice up your story. The limit is 9 genres, this comes out at 5 to 7 genres. Perfect.
@Agentt asked for some more stats on my profile,
"Number of shoujo written by men/number of shounen written by girls?"
Unfortunately it turns out that Shonen and Shoujo do not exist as a genre or tag on sh. I thus went with Seinen and Josei.
For seinen, there were 12 series in trending out of which,
- 3 didnt list their gender
- 1 was female
- 8 were male
- 1 was female
- 1 was male