Yes, I'm actually asking for it at this point

[Nekroz]

I want to talk about the book of proverbs.
It's full of practical knowledge and legit wisdom.
Why don't we talk about the book of proverbs?

 

[SailusGebel]

What?

 

[Nekroz]

What?

In the Bible there is a book called the book of proverbs. It's about wisdom. I've found it to be a great help in my life, especially when it comes to avoiding unnecessary trouble.

 

[SailusGebel]

In the Bible there is a book called the book of proverbs. It's about wisdom. I've found it to be a great help in my life, especially when it comes to avoiding unnecessary trouble.

And?

 

[Nekroz]

And?

I wanna talk about it.

Wanna hear a quote from it?

 

[Anon2024]

And?

Lol, at least he isn’t name calling anyone.

 

[SailusGebel]

Wanna hear a quote from it?

I don't, but go ahead.

 

[georgelee5786]

I'm fairly certain this goes against the forum rules, but since you are just discussing its wisdom rather than the religion as a whole it might be allowed...

 

[Nekroz]

I'm fairly certain this goes against the forum rules, but since you are just discussing its wisdom rather than the religion as a whole it might be allowed...

(Trademarked: Imaginary thumbs up!)

 

[Kidd_Wadsworth]

I prefer Ecclesiastes. "And the silver cord is snapped."

 

[Nekroz]

I prefer Ecclesiastes. "And the silver cord is snapped."

Ecclesiastes is a very insightful book.

 

[melchi]

Well, the thread didn't start out with something in the imperative tense. And the 2nd person was completely mostly avoided. The best way to get people to listen is to treat them with respect. This includes writing in a respectful manner.

Though I'll leave a proverb to see if nekroz can understand.

Proverbs 26:4-5 – Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes. The self-confident fool thinks too highly of himself and his opinions, and he shares them freely.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Proverbs 26:4-5 – Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes. The self-confident fool thinks too highly of himself and his opinions, and he shares them freely.

Most Filipino political vloggers would find this passage detestable. Lol

 

[georgelee5786]

Lol, at most thread will be locked. Expecting it any time now.

Fair enough. If they were serious about rules, I guess Nekroz would've been banned.

 

[CarburetorThompson]

Deterge is one of my new favorite verbs. It means to clean undesired materials.

 

[Nekroz]

Well, the thread didn't start out with something in the imperative tense. And the 2nd person was completely mostly avoided. The best way to get people to listen is to treat them with respect. This includes writing in a respectful manner.

Though I'll leave a proverb to see if nekroz can understand.

Mark 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

 

[gaylolis]

when it comes to bibles, i like bible black.

i still remember when himari wants it in her butt. it cracked me up.

 

[Jemini]

The reason why religious discussions don’t usually end well is because people can’t accept the difference between faith and objectivity.

I guess it’s how one defines religion as well. I define it as a faith in something that can’t be proven or disproven.

Theory of Evolution falls under this category as well, so I guess talking about evolutionary theory should also be prohibited.

Nah, we can observe all the proposals made in the theory of evolution in real time, especially in cases where animals have evolved over the span of a few generations to be more adaptable to man-made things (such as certain species of bird who nest in freeway overpasses evolving to shorten their wingspans compared to members of their species in other areas. This seems to make them more able to avoid being hit by cars.)

The only question where it comes to evolution is if adding a whole lot of time can allow the theory of evolution to become an explanation for the current bio-diversity of all the species we see here on Earth. The theory of evolution, as it's crafted, makes several definite statements that are all observable within a small number of generations. As the theory is stated at it's core, it makes no assertions about what happens if you add "hundreds of millions of years." That part is an extrapolation of the theory that is not part of the (quite provable) theory itself.

 

[Anon2024]

The theory of evolution, as it's crafted, makes several definite statements that are all observable within a small number of generations. As the theory is stated at it's core, it makes no assertions about what happens if you add "hundreds of millions of years." That part is an extrapolation of the theory that is not part of the (quite provable) theory itself.

But a small number of generations doesn't account for what happened before the existence of humanity and the scientific method requires repeatable observations.

Either way, I will have to clarify. It's the historical perspective of the theory of evolution that is religious.

 

[TheEldritchGod]

I want to talk about the book of proverbs.
It's full of practical knowledge and legit wisdom.
Why don't we talk about the book of proverbs?

If it is full of practical knowledge and Legit wisdom, then you don't need the book of proverbs.

Simply transcribe said practical knowledge and Legit Wisdom out of proverbs, convert it into normal english and remove the 'Thou Shall' and other such anachronistic terms, and discuss the concept itself.

The need to discuss "The Book Of Proverbs" implies that you are going to make a claim to authority.
"It is written in here, ergo it is Practical knowledge and Legit Wisdom"

No.

Truth and Wisdom does not require anyone to ever say, "BECAUSE I SAID SO". Because if you are claiming something is 'correct' by pointing at where it was written down, it is just a variation of "BECAUSE I SAID SO" or "BECAUSE GOD SAYS SO" or "BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAID SO" or "BECAUSE FAUCI SAID SO" or "BECAUSE BIDEN SAYS SO" or... ad Infinitum.

I find the bible to be a very useful tool. When I am writing and have writer's block, I just flip it open to any page and I can usually find something to get the story rolling again while claiming to be all brainy because I'm making references to the bible. Revelations is just NEET. Do I believe in the supernatural? Well, being a cloud of Spite and Eyes, it might come across as hypocritical that I state, "no", but to be honest, I don't believe in magic.

And No, I don't want to get into a debate about it, not because you might convince me otherwise (I'd love that, BTW. I think a world with magic would be so much better then one without), but because it is far more likely I will crush your faith. Because I've done that. I'm good at it. I also REGRET doing it. I find most people who have faith are usually good people and are good people BECAUSE of their faith.

It has been my experience that people who have lost faith in more traditional religions don't become atheists. They become followers of Cults of one form or another. In fact, I would go so far as to say I am VERY DISAPPOINTED in my fellow atheists. Most of them become 'atheists' in name only, and instead embrace 'socialism' or some other sort of replacement for religion. Instead of pursing truth, they just come up with another list of 'the way i feel things work' and wind up even more nutty than they ever were as a bible thumper.

The Bible Thumper at least has a few thousand years of proven success, as far as managing society goes. When I talk to Atheists, Erisians, or any other so-called follower of truth, they rarely are concerned with actual truth. If you are someone who is concerned with Truth, over all, you go with the truth, even when it SUCKS. Even when it tells you something you hate.

The Discordians used to be quite fun, until they went woke. Then they became as Greyfaced as the people they claimed to be fighting. Comedy is about speaking truth to power, and quickly becomes the enemy of the intolerant. But they want to think they are the 'good guys', so other humorous movements become 'Facist' and "Full of Nazis'. You'd think Eris and Kek would work wonderfully together, but the truth is, the imaginary Religion of Discord is just as close minded as any bunch of fanatics, in fact, worse.

Christianity at least tries to push its followers to be kind.

But I'm wandering off topic.

My point is, I welcome discussion of any "practical knowledge and legit wisdom". However, reading this thread, I cannot help you but notice you have made several quotes, but... no discussion. I don't care for quotes. I find them dull. if you want to talk about the concept and what it MEANS, well, go right ahead.

But I don't think you want to do that. I mean, when I did my research into making a supercut of the various necronomicons floating about the internet, I found entire websites devoted to discussing every single LINE of Simon's Version of the Necronomicon. The Doctor Dee Version had a few web pages about it. The version where they constantly referenced HP Lovecraft's work, or the one where they actually dug up Babylonian Historical Data to try and connect the real world to these works of fiction was absolutely astounding.

What work have you done?

Where is your history of the quote you want to discuss? Where did it originate? Were there any other cultures who may have used this quote in the past? What was the original language it was written in? The 4th century saw a huge 'Rewriting' of the bible. Did the quote originally appear in any of the apocryphal texts? Did your quote exist before the King James version and if so, was it identical, or if not, what changed?

A SINGLE WORD CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING.

Originally the bible wasn't in english. Are there alternate versions of the quote in question? If we translate it to say, French or Spanish, then into English, how is it different?

Every word in the quote has meaning, but some might have multiple meanings. Words change over time, has the meaning changed over time?

Originally we had Werman, Woman, Human, and just MAN. Because Werman for male has fallen out of use, every time you see the word "Man" in any work that pre-dates the industrial revolution, it doesn't mean what most modern people think it means. We have to consider every time we see the world MAN who wrote it, WHEN it was written, WHERE it was written, and What LANGUAGE it was written in.

That. Is. Just. One. WORD.

So be honest with me:

Do you want to discuss a document over two thousand years old and actually do a deep dive into the thoughts, ideas, concepts, and memetic nature of that document?
Or are you just trying to preach at me about God?

Judging by how you have been handling the thread so far, I think it's the later. I could be wrong, but I really don't think you are as into the etymology of proverbs as I would be. I find the study of memetics to be an absolutely facinating subject and it is reflected in my stories. In fact, I would say memetics and etymology are CORE to all my stories, as my books are ultimately an exploration of concepts.

I don't think you are here to discuss concepts. I think you are here to discuss faith. If that is the case, please take that elsewhere as it serves little purpose here in a forum for, about, and to help writing/authors.

If I am wrong, then by all means, begin your etymological thesis about the "practical knowledge and legit wisdom" of proverbs.
One At A Time, Please.