How lewd is too lewd?

[Spectacular]

So I've written a story and posted it on Ao3. Link to the story. Here's the synopsis:

Rapeworld Isekai

A group of tabletop RPG nerds are transported to a fantasy world of swords and sorcery. Their task: Clear the land of an evil corruption known as the Taint by killing Tainted monsters, absorbing their corruption, and using it to level up.

But in this world, the monsters aren’t merely trying to kill you, they’re trying to rape you and fill you with their Tainted seed. And to make matters worse our noble heroes wake up, only to find themselves in alluring new female bodies… Our unfortunate heroines are forced to survive in a strange new world crawling with brutal rape monsters around every corner. Will they learn to adapt and thrive in their new home? Or will they be reduced to mindless broken cumdumps by the endless hordes of horny, sadistic creatures roaming these cursed lands?

It's shamelessly lewd, with the majority of chapters having at least a little bit of explicit sexual content. I've read the scribblhub content guidelines and they seem a little vague, and open to interpretation. So, specifically...

1) Pornographic stories: I'm not allowed to write "porn without plot." In my case, I'm writing porn with plot. I've got strong characters, character arcs, and the sex is sort of incidental to the overall plot of our isekai protagonists surviving and finding their place in the world. That said, well over 50% of the story contains chapters with lewd scenes, and some chapters are only lewd scenes.

2) Age of Consent: None of the protagonists are below the age of consent, though one is in a body that looks loli-esque, despite being mentally older. There's also a character that lost their virginity and lived as a sex slave at a young age, though it's only talked about in dialogue as part of their backstory and not "shown" explicitly. Also in the worldbuilding, monsters do not discriminate by age, and young slaves aren't given any protections either. It happens in the background, but none of it is "shown" explicitly. It's also always a bad thing when described, never condoned.

3) Encouraging Non-consensual content: If I get in trouble anywhere, it would be here. None of my protagonists are rapists, though some of them are into consensual domination and rape roleplay. Similarly, pretty much all the characters get raped by monsters or humans at some point, and the point of view character has a submissive rape fetish so she actually enjoys getting raped herself. That said, rape is never shown as being "okay" when it happens to characters that aren't necessarily into it. The main character's masochism is sort of their special superpower.

4) Illegal sex acts: Monster rape: Some of the monsters are beast shaped. They're not normal animals, but they're also not intelligent or sapient, just mindless sex beasts taking various forms, humanoid and non-humanoid. Also, certain villains are into acts of extreme sadism including potential death. They inflict bad things on the protagonist. None of this is condoned as "good" in any way.

So, my story is sort of borderline. I personally think it obeys the guidelines, but there's room for interpretation, and I wouldn't want to post my story and have some overzealous moderator ban me for it later. That said, there are some pretty lewd stories posted here already, many of which feature the unambiguous rape of submissive protagonists and are pretty popular. For example:

Transmigration Gone Wrong
Tales of Seductress

So, what do we think? Opinions? Feedback?

 

[NotYourTypicalMan]

Just dance between the lines, everyone here's doing that...

 

[NotaNuffian]

So I've written a story and posted it on Ao3. Link to the story. Here's the synopsis:



It's shamelessly lewd, with the majority of chapters having at least a little bit of explicit sexual content. I've read the scribblhub content guidelines and they seem a little vague, and open to interpretation. So, specifically...

1) Pornographic stories: I'm not allowed to write "porn without plot." In my case, I'm writing porn with plot. I've got strong characters, character arcs, and the sex is sort of incidental to the overall plot of our isekai protagonists surviving and finding their place in the world. That said, well over 50% of the story contains chapters with lewd scenes, and some chapters are only lewd scenes.

2) Age of Consent: None of the protagonists are below the age of consent, though one is in a body that looks loli-esque, despite being mentally older. There's also a character that lost their virginity and lived as a sex slave at a young age, though it's only talked about in dialogue as part of their backstory and not "shown" explicitly. Also in the worldbuilding, monsters do not discriminate by age, and young slaves aren't given any protections either. It happens in the background, but none of it is "shown" explicitly. It's also always a bad thing when described, never condoned.

3) Encouraging Non-consensual content: If I get in trouble anywhere, it would be here. None of my protagonists are rapists, though some of them are into consensual domination and rape roleplay. Similarly, pretty much all the characters get raped by monsters or humans at some point, and the point of view character has a submissive rape fetish so she actually enjoys getting raped herself. That said, rape is never shown as being "okay" when it happens to characters that aren't necessarily into it. The main character's masochism is sort of their special superpower.

4) Illegal sex acts: Monster rape: Some of the monsters are beast shaped. They're not normal animals, but they're also not intelligent or sapient, just mindless sex beasts taking various forms, humanoid and non-humanoid. Also, certain villains are into acts of extreme sadism including potential death. They inflict bad things on the protagonist. None of this is condoned as "good" in any way.

So, my story is sort of borderline. I personally think it obeys the guidelines, but there's room for interpretation, and I wouldn't want to post my story and have some overzealous moderator ban me for it later. That said, there are some pretty lewd stories posted here already, many of which feature the unambiguous rape of submissive protagonists and are pretty popular. For example:

Transmigration Gone Wrong
Tales of Seductress

So, what do we think? Opinions? Feedback?

Err, i like the story. The SJW troops in SH? Not so much. Reminded me of Old Ero Dungeon Online

 

[CupcakeNinja]

So I've written a story and posted it on Ao3. Link to the story. Here's the synopsis:



It's shamelessly lewd, with the majority of chapters having at least a little bit of explicit sexual content. I've read the scribblhub content guidelines and they seem a little vague, and open to interpretation. So, specifically...

1) Pornographic stories: I'm not allowed to write "porn without plot." In my case, I'm writing porn with plot. I've got strong characters, character arcs, and the sex is sort of incidental to the overall plot of our isekai protagonists surviving and finding their place in the world. That said, well over 50% of the story contains chapters with lewd scenes, and some chapters are only lewd scenes.

2) Age of Consent: None of the protagonists are below the age of consent, though one is in a body that looks loli-esque, despite being mentally older. There's also a character that lost their virginity and lived as a sex slave at a young age, though it's only talked about in dialogue as part of their backstory and not "shown" explicitly. Also in the worldbuilding, monsters do not discriminate by age, and young slaves aren't given any protections either. It happens in the background, but none of it is "shown" explicitly. It's also always a bad thing when described, never condoned.

3) Encouraging Non-consensual content: If I get in trouble anywhere, it would be here. None of my protagonists are rapists, though some of them are into consensual domination and rape roleplay. Similarly, pretty much all the characters get raped by monsters or humans at some point, and the point of view character has a submissive rape fetish so she actually enjoys getting raped herself. That said, rape is never shown as being "okay" when it happens to characters that aren't necessarily into it. The main character's masochism is sort of their special superpower.

4) Illegal sex acts: Monster rape: Some of the monsters are beast shaped. They're not normal animals, but they're also not intelligent or sapient, just mindless sex beasts taking various forms, humanoid and non-humanoid. Also, certain villains are into acts of extreme sadism including potential death. They inflict bad things on the protagonist. None of this is condoned as "good" in any way.

So, my story is sort of borderline. I personally think it obeys the guidelines, but there's room for interpretation, and I wouldn't want to post my story and have some overzealous moderator ban me for it later. That said, there are some pretty lewd stories posted here already, many of which feature the unambiguous rape of submissive protagonists and are pretty popular. For example:

Transmigration Gone Wrong
Tales of Seductress

So, what do we think? Opinions? Feedback?

i considered making my trademark troll comments. lIke "its not rape if they like it" or something like that. But I chose instead to give a serious answer so here it is: there's only so much you can do with that kind of story. Rape is just a part of the world at that point, so unless you are REALLY good at writing scenes like that a long story would just get boring. Hell, it would regardless if it's mainly porn.

So don't make the rape a big part of the story. Dont even use it very often, I would say. Sprinkle it in. Make it a very real "threat", a "danger" instead of something normal. In fact don't even start the story with the main characters being raped. Why? Because the opening of the story shows readers what to expect from that point on.

The very first lines of your work, even, opens the reader up and decides how they proceed from that point on. So if you start with rape, it could desensitize them to it. They would end up going into it with the thought, "so this is normal here." and make them shut down what makes them averse to that kind of thing as a kind of defensive mechanism for the rest of the book should they proceed with it.

So be careful. If this is a porn with plot, make plot the more important aspect. You really do need to work on the characters and world building the most and keep the rape monsters a constant looming threat to be used sparingly. Kinda like Goblin Slayer does. Keep that shit in suspense, you know? If you don't then people wont care about the rape parts, nor the story parts

 

[AryaX]

While I like stories set in aphrodisiac soaked "Hentai" worlds filled with rapey monsters, and I look for such stories... still... the explicit parts usually tend to get boring fast, and I often end up feeling like: "I wish this story would go somewhere sometime soon"

PS. The world "Rape" in the title, might trigger people and attract attention you don't want...

 

[BenJepheneT]

Just keep doing what you're doing and when you get banned, you know.

 

[CupcakeNinja]

Just keep doing what you're doing and when you get banned, you know.

wtf. I just noticed. Man what the hell, an old fogey has no business being that goddamn thiccc. You'd know exactly when that guy is about to turn the corner cuz you'd hear them cheeks clappin.

 

[Saileri]

Just keep doing what you're doing and when you get banned, you know.

I'd say the story will be removed first rather than a straight-up ban I think.

 

[Suryae]

Snuff.

Nuff said.

 

[CupcakeNinja]

I'd say the story will be removed first rather than a straight-up ban I think.

wouldn't be sure about that. Maybe if it has a lewd cover, but I dunno about anything else. If it has rape in the title, then also maybe, but I don't think they check content. At least if nothing is reported. I mean I literally had a giant tentacle monster kill and rape a town of mercenaries(they were employed by a scummy Noble and probably killed the town's previous residents so don't feel bad for 'em) and I got away with it. BUt then again my novel doesn't have rape scenes as its main theme...and this one will...so....hm.

 

[Spectacular]

Well, I posted the story on scribblehub. I guess we'll see if it gets taken off.

Honestly, I don't think a proper SJW would actually have an issue with my story if they read it. I've labeled the sexual content, even added a trigger warning, anyone who reads my story shouldn't be caught off guard. It's kinda all there, right in the title. Also, it's got a f-ed up misogynistic setting, but the text itself isn't all that misogynistic.

I'm 11 chapters in, about 45k words and I think I've done a decent job of making things interesting so far. And yeah, I don't intend on getting too repetitive. I agree, if every encounter is just "and then she was filled with tentacles" things would definitely get boring. Luckily, there's plenty of room for new and interesting variations on scenes. I've got six fleshed out characters to play with.

 

[OneSixSeven]

Kissing is too lewd

 

[AryaX]

First 11 chapters... didn't get boring, but I would recommend changing the name... Rape in the title... spells trouble I fear...

Hentaiworld Isekai or something ?

 

[NotYourTypicalMan]

MAN LIVED UP TO HIS NAME ...Spectacular Indeed

 

[Sabruness]

i'm triggered but only because i hate stories that are m>f genderbender that mix GL and het that have the GL tag. much bait, very trap, so "must exterminatus!"

Honestly, it might sound slightly a bit better (just ever so slightly) if you ditched the genderbender stuff altogether, ditched the GL tag (smells like bait) and then rewrote it with the characters starting as girls and being native inhabitants of the world, struggling to unfuck that fucked up crapsack shitball of a world. At least, then you would really have a grimdark plot to play with. because the way it sounds currently is kinda half-assed fetish erotica with some latent BL undertones.

 

[Spectacular]

First 11 chapters... didn't get boring, but I would recommend changing the name... Rape in the title... spells trouble I fear...

Hentaiworld Isekai or something ?

I sorta like the title as it is. It's quite attention grabbing, and it describes the story's setting perfectly. Hentai world isn't quite horrifying enough for the tone I'm aiming for. This world is basically a post apocalyptic dystopia, the last place any sane person with a vagina would ever want to end up. That's the challenge these characters have to overcome. If I get in trouble for the title I'll change it.

 

[Spectacular]

i'm triggered but only because i hate stories that are m>f genderbender that mix GL and het that have the GL tag. much bait, very trap, so "must exterminatus!"

Honestly, it might sound slightly a bit better (just ever so slightly) if you ditched the genderbender stuff altogether, ditched the GL tag (smells like bait) and then rewrote it with the characters starting as girls and being native inhabitants of the world, struggling to unfuck that fucked up crapsack shitball of a world. At least, then you would really have a grimdark plot to play with. because the way it sounds currently is kinda half-assed fetish erotica with some latent BL undertones.

Yeah, I was kinda iffy on including that GL tag. There's lots of girl on girl stuff, but not exclusively. You're right, I've dropped that tag from my story.

As for rewriting the story without gender bending... I'd have to rewrite pretty much everything. A lot of the main character's personality comes from her being a former guy. Like her being shameless, tomboyish, uncomfortable with her attraction to guys, promiscuous and eager to fool around with her female friends. An actual female character who grew up female would behave a little bit more inhibited in these situations. Plus she'd react differently to this world's sexism, finding it actually offensive instead of just brushing it off as silly. It's not just dialogue either, character decisions and plot points would stop making sense too, so I'd probably have to scrap the whole thing and start over.

Plus, who says these characters aren't going to try to unfuck the craptastic world? These characters have plenty of incentive to fight the patriarchy. And their status as former Earthlings will help them. They actually know what a moderately-decent world is supposed to be like and they have the self confidence not to be intimidated by jerks. If they were girls growing up in this world, where women don't fight monsters or gain levels, they'd probably just be browbeaten into submission the instant they stepped out of line.

 

[Sabruness]

Yeah, I was kinda iffy on including that GL tag. There's lots of girl on girl stuff, but not exclusively. You're right, I've dropped that tag from my story.

As for rewriting the story without gender bending... I'd have to rewrite pretty much everything. A lot of the main character's personality comes from her being a former guy. Like her being shameless, tomboyish, uncomfortable with her attraction to guys, promiscuous and eager to fool around with her female friends. An actual female character who grew up female would behave a little bit more inhibited in these situations. Plus she'd react differently to this world's sexism, finding it actually offensive instead of just brushing it off as silly. It's not just dialogue either, character decisions and plot points would stop making sense too, so I'd probably have to scrap the whole thing and start over.

Plus, who says these characters aren't going to try to unfuck the craptastic world? These characters have plenty of incentive to fight the patriarchy.

srs point: i do think they'll still try to unfuck it. Just, native characters would allow you to take things in different directions to the same goal. so, see above^

 

[UYScuti]

The title will probably cause problems. Maybe modify it a bit.

something like this:

My friends and I were genderbent isekaid to a world were monsters violate women, and now we must clear them of their taint.

 

[Spectacular]

srs point: i do think they'll still try to unfuck it. Just, native characters would allow you to take things in different directions to the same goal. so, see above^

Yeah, native characters would be interesting. I could make them a bit more tragic, and add a bit more darkness to the world. That sounds like a story I'd want to read, but I'll still keep the characters the way they are though. I've written too much to change things now, I'm up to chapter 16 in rough draft. Plus instead of pure Grimdark, I could go in a more Nobledark direction with these characters. We'll have to see.