What is it with “yuri” authors and not using the bisexual protagonist tag

[Asdark]

If you want to read a genuine Yuri novel with lot of romance, character growth and magical power build up in fantasy - You should try this for must.
Yuri life! In Another World

 

[Asdark]

I’ll be honest this is a straight up rant so if you don’t like that leave now. This is the 4th time I’ve run into a novel that’s labeled girls love that has het content despite not having the bisexual protagonist tag. First of all it’s not yuri if there’s any sort of heterosexual content end of story second of all if your going to insist it is then put the fucking tag. I was reading and the first pairing is het despite it being listed as girls love she hasn’t shown any attraction to other girls and the first time she shows attraction it’s to a guy. That’s an obvious sign this is not a girls love novel and it’s cheap yuri baiting fishing for views. I’m sick and tired of authors pulling this shit. It’s not just this website either people pull this shit on webnovel Wattpad and to a lesser degree royal road (neither tag exists on there so claiming that site is a problem for this reason is a stretch but the yuri baiting is still a big issue there). Just look at nanomancer that author yuri baited me for nearly 900 chapters then has her hook up with a guy who’s her frickin stalker and also her sworn brother if that wasn’t creepy enough already. I don’t care if they’re not blood related incest is still creepy. Can’t authors stop this shit and let me read yuri in peace.

to be clear what others are interested in is their business and I’m not going to shout them down for it we have enough people doing that without my loud voice added to the cacophony. I personally find het gross and unpleasant due to the shit I grew up with and read yuri for that reason having it shoved into a novel I’m reading for no reason pisses me the hell off. If someone wants to write a novel with mf mm or any of the countless sexualities in their pairing that’s fine I’m not interested but it’s their story all I ask is that they use the resources available to them to make deal breakers like that easy to identify.

If you want to read a genuine Yuri novel with lot of romance, character growth and magical power build up in fantasy - You should try this for must.
Yuri life! In Another World

 

[Echimera]

and the one I was complaining about today Shattered Moonstone. Didn’t bother reading past the point where she kissed her sisters childhood friend (who she just met) on the lips though.

With no feelings on her part though, to wake up her sister with the shock.
They barely hit puberty, so this is hardly an indication of where the story goes.
She herself is very gay, which wIll be obvious soon after, and I think they'll get a separate body before any relationships happen.

You can hardly expect characters besides the MC to just not have relationships.


That being said, I really get you. There is already too much Yuri-bait out there even without labelling it as Yuri.

 

[Wohendum]

That just makes it more dishonest. Intentionally hiding information that could be a turn of for readers simply to fish for views is wrong and anyone who does so deserves a poor score. SH has a lot of tags so I can see some people missing them but when an author straight up refuses to add the tag or a content warning of any sort when asked like the author of bondalc did that’s just plain dishonest.

Yeah. Anyone hiding tags to manipulatively get people to read their works deserves every poor rating they get.

 

[CL]

First of all it’s not yuri if there’s any sort of heterosexual content end of story...

When you say this, do you mean just with the protagonist or there being any form of heterosexual content in the story? Are side characters allowed to be straight in a GL/BL?

 

[BenJepheneT]

Idk man, I think reading about halal sex when you expect solely haram stuff can really annoy people. In contrast, a tsundere being in a harem with a yandere is much more mild in comparison.

Think of it like your gf surprises you with anal one day. Getting a tsundere in the harem would be akin to her getting lube and preparing her butt. Getting hetero while being told it was pure yuri is like getting pegged without notice.

it comes down to differing demographics, i think. if the script is flipped and I receive multitudes of yuri in a hetero harem it'll still feel like my gf getting lube and preparing her butt, only that she's also cosplaying as Ben-Hur, for some reason. weird, but not maddening.

as for getting pegged, that's reserved to sudden dips in quality or a nonsensical plot point or a character doing something that's way beyond their established personality.

i guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't mind if elements of a story change, so long as the story remains good and consistent. incorrect tags be damned, I don't care. if Eren proclaims homosexuality and declares that he pegs Armin on a nightly basis, if the author gradually leads us to the reveal, I'm welcoming for it. but when the author shits out a piss-poor ending for the sake of some bullshit twist, that's when I'm getting my pitchfork.

sadly, we all know which reality we're living in.

 

[Ai-chan]

I’ll be honest this is a straight up rant so if you don’t like that leave now. This is the 4th time I’ve run into a novel that’s labeled girls love that has het content despite not having the bisexual protagonist tag. First of all it’s not yuri if there’s any sort of heterosexual content end of story second of all if your going to insist it is then put the fucking tag. I was reading and the first pairing is het despite it being listed as girls love she hasn’t shown any attraction to other girls and the first time she shows attraction it’s to a guy. That’s an obvious sign this is not a girls love novel and it’s cheap yuri baiting fishing for views. I’m sick and tired of authors pulling this shit. It’s not just this website either people pull this shit on webnovel Wattpad and to a lesser degree royal road (neither tag exists on there so claiming that site is a problem for this reason is a stretch but the yuri baiting is still a big issue there). Just look at nanomancer that author yuri baited me for nearly 900 chapters then has her hook up with a guy who’s her frickin stalker and also her sworn brother if that wasn’t creepy enough already. I don’t care if they’re not blood related incest is still creepy. Can’t authors stop this shit and let me read yuri in peace.

to be clear what others are interested in is their business and I’m not going to shout them down for it we have enough people doing that without my loud voice added to the cacophony. I personally find het gross and unpleasant due to the shit I grew up with and read yuri for that reason having it shoved into a novel I’m reading for no reason pisses me the hell off. If someone wants to write a novel with mf mm or any of the countless sexualities in their pairing that’s fine I’m not interested but it’s their story all I ask is that they use the resources available to them to make deal breakers like that easy to identify.

Ai-chan tries to label everything, particularly if it's significant to the story. But if there is a limit to how many tags you can put on scribblehub. The maximum is 25 (if Ai-chan recalls correctly) and if you have more than that, you have to pick which one you want and discard the rest. So the author probably wants to tag it, but because his story is so big, he had to choose the most significant tag. Ai-chan doesn't know, not reading the stories you mentioned.

Though Ai-chan actually has problem with the addition of tags that is nothing more than bait. Like, you have a story that tags itself as yuri, but you keep reading and reading and to the end of the story, the only yuri-ish thing was a girl kissing the other as thanks for her help. It makes Ai-chan wonder if the author even understands the concept of yuri.

As for Ai-chan, Ai-chan prefers to inform beforehand about the contents. A lot of stuff Ai-chan write about make some group of people triggered. Was even attacked by a vegan for writing about a journey to eat otherworld meat on a porn story site. Ai-chan doesn't think the vegan even read the story, because the 'meat' was actually the representation of the dicks and tits of different kinds of otherworld species.

 

[Sabruness]

When you say this, do you mean just with the protagonist or there being any form of heterosexual content in the story? Are side characters allowed to be straight in a GL/BL?

i think you'll find that itself varies between readers. some are extreme purists while others, like me, dont care what's happening in the background as long as it's not a major focus part of the story and the protags actions/relationships match up with the tags. I wouldnt touch BL novels with a 10 foot pole but i've read yuri novels that have had BL minor characters.

On the general topic, every few months there'll be a thread like this which is an unfortunate sign that despite general antipathy towards gross, deliberate mistagging for bait purposes authors still continue to do it.

I know there are hard tag limits but i've seen plenty of authors insert the overflow into the synopsis so that's not a legitimate excuse for deliberate mistagging.

Personally, as someone who'll first judge by the tags (and treats bisexual protag GL like the plague) it is a very frustrating issue to be baited.

 

[Yati]

When you say this, do you mean just with the protagonist or there being any form of heterosexual content in the story? Are side characters allowed to be straight in a GL/BL?

IMO that is allowed... It is often used to let the MC feel like she is different from the others, or for whatever reason. The OP clearly said they were ranting about the MC and the lack of the bisexual protagonist tag and I know exactly what they mean...


At Dynasty scans they have the "404 no man allowed" tag for stories where there will be no men participating... but that is not a must for a yuri story.

 

[tounokenja]

after reading OPs rant, I now officially believe there should not be any tags allowed. You can choose a single main genre, like how old bookstores used to be. You get a story synopsis and everything that happens... happens!

just like when i was young and impressionable and came across a terry goodkind book that i thought was just some kinda edgy fantasy, then bam! rape-a-pa-looza!

Was I uncomfortable and ended up disliking it ultimately? heck yeah.
would i have read if it knew what kind of content was hidden in it's pages? probably not.

ergo, we should have no tags, and enjoy surprise het, surprise bl, surprise gb, and most of all, surprise yuri!

I'm sure it doesn't need to be said, but surprise NTR is always welcome~♥

 

[Sabruness]

surprise NTR is always welcome~♥

 

[gogo7966]

Go for gender-bender. I highly doubt any male-to-female gender-bender is gonna hook up with a guy. There may be some but most don’t.

you would be surprised

 

[TotallyHuman]

Go for gender-bender. I highly doubt any male-to-female gender-bender is gonna hook up with a guy. There may be some but most don’t.

I've read a few. Some were actually really good

 

[SakeVision]

they know sheep are attracted to girls love tag so they put it even if it's a lie to get clout

I've read a few. Some were actually really good

What's he point of popping titty skittles if not to get plowed by handsome ikemen

 

[JayDirex]

I’ll be honest this is a straight up rant so if you don’t like that leave now. This is the 4th time I’ve run into a novel that’s labeled girls love that has het content despite not having the bisexual protagonist tag. First of all it’s not yuri if there’s any sort of heterosexual content end of story second of all if your going to insist it is then put the fucking tag. I was reading and the first pairing is het despite it being listed as girls love she hasn’t shown any attraction to other girls and the first time she shows attraction it’s to a guy. That’s an obvious sign this is not a girls love novel and it’s cheap yuri baiting fishing for views. I’m sick and tired of authors pulling this shit. It’s not just this website either people pull this shit on webnovel Wattpad and to a lesser degree royal road (neither tag exists on there so claiming that site is a problem for this reason is a stretch but the yuri baiting is still a big issue there). Just look at nanomancer that author yuri baited me for nearly 900 chapters then has her hook up with a guy who’s her frickin stalker and also her sworn brother if that wasn’t creepy enough already. I don’t care if they’re not blood related incest is still creepy. Can’t authors stop this shit and let me read yuri in peace.

to be clear what others are interested in is their business and I’m not going to shout them down for it we have enough people doing that without my loud voice added to the cacophony. I personally find het gross and unpleasant due to the shit I grew up with and read yuri for that reason having it shoved into a novel I’m reading for no reason pisses me the hell off. If someone wants to write a novel with mf mm or any of the countless sexualities in their pairing that’s fine I’m not interested but it’s their story all I ask is that they use the resources available to them to make deal breakers like that easy to identify.

Quit your belly aching and read my novel. There's no dudes in it.

The Kriegers of Mount Castle High

The beautiful Krieger sisters, who may-or-may not be Valkyries, have transferred into the renowned Mount Castle High School for Girls. But once there, the sisters quickly take an interest in a good natured student named Emilia, and the activities of the school itself. But the longer they stay...

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[gogo7966]

Quit your belly aching and read my novel. There's no dudes in it.

The Kriegers of Mount Castle High

The beautiful Krieger sisters, who may-or-may not be Valkyries, have transferred into the renowned Mount Castle High School for Girls. But once there, the sisters quickly take an interest in a good natured student named Emilia, and the activities of the school itself. But the longer they stay...

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your novel has the magical effect of making a blank spot in my mind whenever i see it on the front page

 

[JayDirex]

your novel has the magical effect of making a blank spot in my mind whenever i see it on the front page

stop reading trash, your mind will clear.

 

[S10]

Minor thing: In regards to Nanomancer Reborn, it doesn't have GL or BL or Bi tags.
It is only tagged Fantasy Romance Reincarnation System.
So why are you guys mad?

 

[JayDirex]

Minor thing: In regards to Nanomancer Reborn, it doesn't have GL or BL or Bi tags.
It is only tagged Fantasy Romance Reincarnation System.
So why are you guys ma

Bruv, best you learn now. The readers of pure GL, BL get real upset if some swinging johnson has relations with their best "yuri" girl mc. Same with the BL readers. They will burn your novel if some woman gets between the dudes they like. In fact, they don't even care for hetero subplots with side characters.

 

[CupcakeNinja]

I’ll be honest this is a straight up rant so if you don’t like that leave now. This is the 4th time I’ve run into a novel that’s labeled girls love that has het content despite not having the bisexual protagonist tag. First of all it’s not yuri if there’s any sort of heterosexual content end of story second of all if your going to insist it is then put the fucking tag. I was reading and the first pairing is het despite it being listed as girls love she hasn’t shown any attraction to other girls and the first time she shows attraction it’s to a guy. That’s an obvious sign this is not a girls love novel and it’s cheap yuri baiting fishing for views. I’m sick and tired of authors pulling this shit. It’s not just this website either people pull this shit on webnovel Wattpad and to a lesser degree royal road (neither tag exists on there so claiming that site is a problem for this reason is a stretch but the yuri baiting is still a big issue there). Just look at nanomancer that author yuri baited me for nearly 900 chapters then has her hook up with a guy who’s her frickin stalker and also her sworn brother if that wasn’t creepy enough already. I don’t care if they’re not blood related incest is still creepy. Can’t authors stop this shit and let me read yuri in peace.

to be clear what others are interested in is their business and I’m not going to shout them down for it we have enough people doing that without my loud voice added to the cacophony. I personally find het gross and unpleasant due to the shit I grew up with and read yuri for that reason having it shoved into a novel I’m reading for no reason pisses me the hell off. If someone wants to write a novel with mf mm or any of the countless sexualities in their pairing that’s fine I’m not interested but it’s their story all I ask is that they use the resources available to them to make deal breakers like that easy to identify.

Yuri is just a phase, that's why. You experiment, then you grow out of it